I think there are different types of the white datura. Even variation and confusion in the Datura wrightii and Datura meteloides. Both white. I think, and this is me thinking according to the garden knowledge that I have perused (much of it contradicting and overlapping) that the Datua wrightii and the Datura meteloides look very similar but the Datura wrightii is taller and the Datura Mateloides is a lower broad mound. The D. wrightii is more of a water hound than the D meteloides. D . meteloides is indigenous through utah , new mexico and texas. the D wrightii is indigenous in Texas and points east. That said , I have seen a lot of confusion of people and these two names. they could be synonyms. I have notice cultural differences between populations. Datura stramonium is seen in wetter and further north. I could be wrong about all of this because the info is confusing. Datura metels are from a variety that was taken to india and messed with over there and then return as all those beautiful doubles and triple in the different colors. There is the purple throated Datura discolor that is a truly desert variety that grows in southern inland California , Low valley area of Arizona.There are several other varieties also. It is a bit more cold tender than the others and is a low mounding and smaller plant. I was careful and ordered seeds from a western population. I am lusting after the Datura discolor. It is still a plant that needs room, and one does need to manage the seeds. I clip them off before they burst. I also collected a type that had been growing in a old abandoned farmstead not far from me on top of a limestone hill. Here is a link that might be useful: Datura blossom slideshow

I followed your suggestion on a file saved to my system and the file did not have the "read only" box checked, but when I open it ... it defaults to "file viewer" mode. When I try the same action on a file sent to me, selection of properties does not show the check boxes for read only, etc.

When mr. sandyponder and I got married we were both 40, had good jobs, owned our own homes and had all the stuff we ever needed, so we sent the invitation, a map to the site and a card printed on heavy stock like the invite that said something to the effect of "We want your presence, not your presents**" in large print and at the bottom, in small print, it said "If you want to do something, please consider a donation to XXX charity or the charity of your choice in celebration of this momentous occasion!" We received a few presents anyway, but lots of $$ went to a local non-profit that we both care deeply about. IMO making a donation instead of a gift is not impersonal in any way, shape or form, rather, making a charitable gift in someone's name is *highly* personal and an honor, regardless if it's a cash donation, a gently used item of clothing, an hour of volunteer time or anything in between. sandyponder

I recently removed popcorn ceilings from my entire house (all rooms including closets, bathrooms, hallways.) The painter we hired, had his men scrape off the popcorn then smeared some sort of texture on the ceiling. After that they put on one coat of paint. So now, the ceilings have a swirly texture (which is common in Florida). They also sprayed something on the walls which produced an orange-peel effect and then painted. I know they didn't prime the ceilings. They used this stucco-type stuff and painted. It looks good. Jane