Replace the duct hose for bathroom exhaust fan, what kind to use?
Frizzle71
10 years ago
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70-110 exhaust fan for 40 sq ft bathroom
Comments (16)hey pup - I'm plenty versed in the building arena and am still in the game as opposed to siting on the bench armchair quarterbacking. "I most assuredly CAN make that statement " yes - but you'd be making an inaccurate one! "Once you know the CFM you then determine the lenght of run from the fan to the point of discharge and use the friction head loss tables to determine the correct size of duct. " Since you're so versed on this - how long is essdana's duct run? Did his/her builder installer use 3" or 4" ducting? What's the static pressure difference between 3" and 4" duct? What was it made from? What's the flow loss when using corrugated aluminum duct vs. smoothwall PVC? Do you need a slide rule for the math calculations ? Are there any elbows/bends in the duct run? How many ? It's clear you know how to do this: "Once you know the CFM you then determine the lenght of run from the fan to the point of discharge and use the friction head loss tables to determine the correct size of duct. " But, since you don't know the sizing, material , length and pressure loss of essdana's duct work install - you can't ACCURATELY say that the 40 CFM fan in question will overcome the static pressure of his/her duct work. Sure it works on paper with your slick tables - but the real world presents some curveballs. You certain learned this on your journey to Master status. And, you're not going to get to use anything but 4" duct for this fan anyway 3" if your builder /customer is cheap. So overcoming high static pressure with a clever oversized duct plan isn't really an option. Another thing - This fan we are talking about - 40CFM, is that a max. rating, average? At what static pressure was that measurement taken or is that maximum free air movement? If it was rated at free air , the second you add duct work (any kind) that rating is going to drop on a pretty steep curve as 40 CFM fans tend not to be high quality and accurately rated from the get go. So - simply going rule of thumb based on your "experience" using a few tables can get you into trouble in a real bathroom. That's my point. Your 40 CFM "idea" sized fan is great in your air conditioned office. What if the maker fudged' their rating and the thing only moves 30cfm when a duct is attached? What if two 90 deg bend are added into the duct run? How much restriction does the roof cap add to the system? How many room air changes is that 40cfm fan really going to produce at essdana's house? You can't answer that- you can only answer what the theoretical maximum would be based on your beloved tables and some educated guesses based on your experience. They are still guesses, and are no better than my guesses - so settle down boy....See MoreA duct problem or bathroom fan problem?
Comments (15)Hopefully your ductwork is in good condition and properly sized. The fan should be sized for the bathroom. Here are some guidelines: Small rooms: For bathrooms up to 100 square feet in area, HVI (Home Ventilation Institute) recommends that an exhaust fan provide 1 CFM per square foot (approximately eight air changes per hour) to properly ventilate the bathroom. Example: Bathroom is 8'x5' (with 8' ceilings). Multiply 8 x 5 = 40ft. Bathroom area is 40ft. At 1 cfm per square foot the minimum recommendation is a fan rated at 40 cfm. Larger rooms: For bathrooms above 100 square feet in area, HVI recommends a ventilation rate based on the number and type of fixtures present, according to the following table: Toilet 50 CFM Shower 50 CFM Bath Tub 50 CFM Jetted Tub 100 CFM Duration of ventilation: HVI recommends that the fan be left on for 20 minutes after use of the bathroom. A timer is a good solution, allowing the fan to turn off automatically at the proper time. One thing you should know is most fans only produce 50% of the rated cfm because of undersized and poorly installed ducts. Ducts should be hard pipe, not corrugated plastic that will cause too much restriction and possibly degrade and leak over time. 37 year veteran HVAC professional Here is a link that might be useful: Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning Help and Advice...See MoreBathroom Exhaust Ducts Disconnected in Attic
Comments (5)I'm curious only.. where do you live? I was suprised to hear you have mold in the attic from the amount of moisture from a bathroom. If you're in Houston or other humid area I can understand the moisture never leaving. I would ask about the 'as is' sale of your house. that is, if it was not 'as is' then you have recourse especially if the mold is due to the duct not being connected. Where do you live? I say I'm surpised to hear of the dramatic effect of the fan from a bathroom into the attic I say this as in my experience it's usually little moisture from a bathroom fan and the attic being warmer or vented can get rid of the moisture pretty fast. Good luck. I'd figure your home purchase is going to be backed up via the real estate agent who sold the property. Anyone know where he goes first to complain? I'll have a look back in a week or two. Andre...See MoreBathroom exhaust fan with heater
Comments (3)Many of the fans with a heater have a small heating element with a second fan---the problem is that many of those models also require three electrical feeds to allow for independent use of all the features---light, exhaust fan, and heater. Most units with only fan and light have a 3 wire cable installed for operation. When installing the models with added heaters, an additional feed must also be installed....See Moreenduring
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