We bought a 36" 6 burner all gas pro harmony range and installed it last October. We adore this thing. I have not had problems with simmer -- the two leftmost burners do cycle on and off to get ultra low heat levels, but all four of the burners have a continuous simmer mode that really does deliver consistent, simmer level heat (in fact, it takes a little too long to slow cook garlic and often needs to start off a little higher before being turned down to simmer). The major liability of the oven is something that has been mentioned on this forum before. For some reason, Thermador opted to have a cooling fan kick on to preserve the electronics when the oven is on, rather than putting in enough insulation to protect the electronics. It's not obnoxiously loud, but you are constantly aware that it's there, it stays on for an extra minute or two after the oven is off, and you notice just as much when it turns off. Cleaning the star burners does take some doing, and anything that gets trapped in the nooks and crannies does need to be cleaned off before it gets burned in. We can get most of it off, though it does take some elbow grease. But I do like the fact that it heats in a star shaped pattern rather than a circle. For the price point, it does remain tough to beat, though I suppose if you have budget for a more expensive stove, you could look at Dacor, Capital, Wolf, et al.

I'm probably going to get the 3" trim kit, but wait until my Visa card has recovered a bit. I HAVE resolved the issue of whether it's needed by calling Thermador directly. Here's the scoop: the range must be 12" from a combustible (e.g., drywall) surface. However, it can be placed flush against a tiled wall without a trim kit because tile is not combustible. If a lower trim kit is available, I'll let everyone know. On the appliance forum someone indicated that installing anything other than Thermador-approved would void the warranty. HTH. The PH hood is 11", 600 cfm. I believe mine vents to outside. I'm not particularly a greasy messy frying kind of cook, and rarely used the former POS. Haven't yet tried the grill option. PS My range is beautiful, and roey and arc, yours are/will be too! I'm still trying to get the hang of cooking with convection.

Hi, I like Thermador Pro Grand knobs more than Pro Harmony knobs. Does anyone know if the knobs and bezels are compatible? I am thinking of replacing my pro harmony stainless knobs with blue pro Grand knobs. This is a weird question, so I understand if most don't have an answer, but perhaps if you are an appliance geek like me, you'll know!

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