Miele dishwasher Seeking recommendations for which model to buy
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Comments (11)The Dimension you linked above has the adjustable cutlery tray. What I meant by "split" is that one section can be taken out if you have something extra tall in the basket below. But the cutlery tray itself is the must-have. That model also has the china/crystal mode and a tweak that lets you clean something heavy duty on the bottom with crystal in the middle (nice!). Also has Express, which is the quick cycle I liked a lot (though others have said they don't use it). The one you linked is integrated but not fully. Meaning, controls are on the outside and the cabinet panel fits on below them. So the dw can be seen -- that also gives you the countdown. And handle doesn't stick out and isn't huge. Downside is you see there's a dw there and some with little ones don't want buttons outside to tempt them. Fully integrated models have controls on the inside top of the door, completely hidden. Kiddos cannot see/push them as easily (if that's an issue) and the panel covers the entire dishwasher door. Usually folks match the handle to the rest of the cabinets. So it looks like a cabinet vs like a DW. Downside of this style is the DW is so quiet the fully integrated can be mistakenly opened while running even though a red light does show below the counter when it's on. antss made some good comments on the duplicate thread in kitchens -- explaining the overall differences between top and bottom of the line machines. Another thing is that these are engineered to use rinse aid in addition to detergent -- you may be aware of this. Perhaps some posters with this model can comment more specifically....See MoreMiele dishwasher: comparison of models
Comments (4)Did you order the color booklet describing each model? If not I would order that from Miele because it lists the features of each model and highlights a new feature as you move up the model line. Briefly: Advanta is entry level has 6 programs and uses 5 different temperature settings. It has convection passive drying. It also has standard 12 place setting racks. Inspira - is like the Advanta except it has fan assisted convection drying and uses push buttons instead of a dial like the Advanta does. Diamante - Similar to the models above except that it has 14 place setting racks and is quieter. Optima - is quieter than all of the previous, has height adjustable middle basket that can also be tilted, has the premium flexible racks holding 14 place setting. Instead of having fixed water temperatures it uses a sensor to examine the soil level and adjust the hotness of the water to the soil level. It has a built in water softener that mixes soft water with regular water to adjust it to the correct hardness allowing you to use less detergent. Has a china crystal cycle that uses low temperature and short times to wash dedicates. You can select between detergent types(gels, tabs, powders) so that you can get the best results from each. It is quieter than the above mentioned models and has a 24 hour delay start feature. Excella has everything the Optima has plus touch controls that use a display screen so that you use a menu to select cycles and options. Uses the display to communicate via sentences and phrases rather than lights. Can use slightly less water than models above depending on program cycle. Has about 19 program cycles, including special ones that are designed to wash cheese and pasta starchy items. Other programs use low temperatures and take less time and still clean well. Allows you to add extras to programs(extra dry time, extra rinse, a "soak" which is a long heated prewash etc) You can remove the middle rack and wash tall items only in the bottom. Has sectioned cup racks - you can lower half or all of it. Has a split cutlery tray which allows you to remove a portion of it or slide portions around. Good if you have tall items in the middle rack. In addition to the soil sensor that the Optima has it has a load size sensor that detects the size of the load you are washing and adjusts the water fill level to match the size - saving some water. It is quieter than the above mentioned models. LaPerla has everything that the Excella has plus; It uses a flat screen interface and screen - no buttons, and is rated as quieter than the above machines. All the models can be connected to cold water and don't require an incoming water temp of 120F to work, which allows them to use lower temperatures Lower than 120F. All of the models except the LaPerla can be purchased with hidden controls. The Optima is in the middle of the line and a good place to start. Look at it, and work your way up or down, keeping in mind that steps up give you quieter operation, slightly faster cycles, and slightly less water usage. Be aware that Miele is due to release their new models sometime this year so everything I just said may not apply to them. If you don't have the printed booklet it is worth ordering and it's free....See MoreWhich of these Bosch/Miele dishwashers will be best?
Comments (16)I went to the Bosch web site and I can't find any of the 300 series models you mention so I am not sure what they offer. It's not easy to compare entry level models of one brand with with top of the line models or another brand but you can compare price. You didn't list any models in the 800 series but this is their top of the line so that should be good. You did mention Miele Advanta, and the Inspira. These are entry level Models. I don't care for the Advanta although I know folks do have them and like them. I don't care for it because it has a different drying system than all of the other models. They have passive condensation drying which just lets the dishes sit and dry by condensation. The rest of the Miele models use a fan to assist this process which I think helps things dry better. Only MY opinion! The Miele Optima is the mid point in the line and It offers more flexibility in cycles, energy saving features, and loading than the entry models....See MoreWhich Miele Dishwasher is the right choice?
Comments (32)sreedesq, I don't know if yo've made your decision, but I had my Benchmark installed yesterday. There is a similar difference in dB level between my older unit and the new one. Can I tell the difference? Yes. Could everyone? I'm not sure. If your sound sensitivity and the room situation demand the quietest possible, them do the upgrade. If quiet enough that you will often (not always) have to check whether the DW is running and not have to raise your voice or TV volume is good enough, then anything in the mid to low 40s should make you happy....See Moreantss
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