Can't decide on combination of steam oven, wall oven, microwave
jett254
10 years ago
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Comments (13)I just linked to a picture I found online; however, my speed oven interior looks exactly like the picture. My cookies, not so sure..... Wall ovens, when they were introduced in the 1950s, were often really installed in a cutout in a wall. Nowadays they're almost always put in cabinets, but the term stuck. My Advantium 240 was installed in a new hole cut in the kitchen wall, reclaiming what previously was utterly unusable space above a staircase, which previously was open to its landing and 7 to 10 feet upwards, with sliding doors covering it. I reappropriated it for the kitchen in the adjacent room, as the bottom of that unreachable storage closet was only 50" above the kitchen floor. I would have preferred it a half foot lower, but free space in this tiny kitchen (which didn't have room for a dishwasher before renovation) was too good to pass up. As for how much I value the "regular" oven we're putting in, it too will have a drawer under it - and the oven itself is already under the counter. I got the smallest oven I could find - 24" wide, 24" tall - and it leaves room for a 6"h drawer underneath. I didn't want to waste space on an appliance that will rarely get used....See Moreopinion: double wall ovens vs combination wall oven and microwave
Comments (13)It depends upon how you want to use that second oven. The microwave/convection oven requires you to choose between a glass base or a metal base, depending upon which process you're using. If you envision using the Advantium (I presume the other alternatives are similar in this regard) for an oven frequently and you also use a microwave frequently, I think you would find changing these out irritating. If, instead, you will only use it infrequently as an oven and frequently as a microwave, then it's easy enough to use. My Advantium preheats in roughly 5 minutes. It cools down very fast and I have not had any problem using it as a microwave right after using it as an oven. (I'm using it now on the countertop during the temporary kitchen phase. A real godsend!) If you go this route, you want to have a convenient location for storing whichever base isn't being used at the time along with the rack that isn't used during microwaving....See MoreDouble wall oven and microwave or wall oven and convection microwave
Comments (4)I agree with Jpmom that you don't want a MW on top of a double oven - it's just too high. However, although she does not like a MW drawer, many people on this forum adore theirs (note that all MW drawers are made by Sharp, so if you decide to get one, no need to pay up for a different brand name, as it is just a rebadge). Is there no other location in your kitchen? Do you have a pantry where you could keep the MW? There was just a recent thread on this MW placement topic. http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/3833699/placement-of-a-microwave?n=42 I am not a fan of the oven/microwave combos, as I think there are too many compromises in both in order to combine them. Just MHO. If you are doing a major kitchen remodel, you might want to re-think the cooktop in the island, mostly because how are you going to exhaust it. This topic has been covered a zillion times on this forum, but the upshot is if you care about good exhaust, you should have your cooktop on a wall, so that the exhaust capabilities are not hampered by trying to exhaust over an island setup. On the other hand, many people are absolutely fine with poor or no exhaust, and perhaps that is you, so never mind....See MoreMiele Combination Microwave-Steam oven
Comments (4)Mike, I'm not familiar with that particular unit, but Sharp has had a steam microwave for some years now, and considering that most of the microwaves in the world are made by Sharp or Panasonic, it's a good bet that they make the Miele one too. It would be worthwhile checking specs and features, and seeing if Sharp has one that would do the job for you and look good enough. You could also put it in a space sized for a built-in once the Miele gets here. I have imported a cooktop from Europe, which is a pretty similar kind of thing. The first thing I was told to do was get a letter from my homeowners' insurance saying that they know it's not UL certified and are okay with that. The EU has just as strict, if not moreso, standards, but with that letter you can make the insurance pay if it catches your kitchen on fire. My insurance just required that a fully licensed electrician do the installation. Also keep in mind that your local building code may also have something to say about it. It's particularly important for you because microwaves are much more likely to catch fire (though usually through something bad you're zapping) than an induction cooktop with a proper heat shield. Another thing to consider is the juice. The 50 vs. 60 Hz makes a difference for some things, and it might for microwaves. It turned out in the end that my cooktop was actually made for either, but we didn't know that until we got it. I checked with the local service group's "weird question guy" and he said that the induction would work either way, but the clock might not if it were the wrong frequency. You could check with your local Miele service. Since my cooktop is an alternative version of the one they sold in the U.S. anyway, I didn't have concerns about repair, though I did confirm with weird question guy. Of course, there's no warranty when you self-import. If the microwave is made by Sharp, even if the Miele service here isn't trained to fix it, a Sharp tech should be able to, I'd think. :) Hopefully you wouldn't need a specialized part made just for the Miele version. But if they had the training to fix it, I don't know why Miele wouldn't. Again, no warranty, but if you're paying the only reason I'd think they'd refuse is CYA. Since I think they do sell microwaves here, as well as regular steam ovens, in theory the techs, armed with their computers and gizmos, would be up to it. Ask. If you have it sent from Europe, have it double boxed first, and remember, if there's a scratch, it's yours. The box from my little cooktop was half destroyed. Luckily all the bits were still inside. The metal frame had a couple of little bends in it and I felt very lucky that nothing else was damaged. A shipping box would have made a big difference. FedEx are great, though, and do all the customs and everything. It's been awhile for me, but, then at least, they just sent a bill for the duty plus a nominal handling fee....See MoreJ K
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