I have the opportunity to buy a 2 yr old 36" WOLF range for $2900...its looks in great condition but do you feel it is worth the price? Any warnings I should be aware of?

I have been surprised at how well my excella cleans pots. I wonder if you didn't have it positioned well. I usually put my larger pots on the bottom at a slight angle.However, I can say that my cake pans and muffin pans don't come out completely clean. There are always crumbs in the corner. Also, I have been using miele tabs until just recently so I don't have feedback re: the detergent. I switched to cascade complete which is in powder form. In comparison to the miele tabs I would rate as just ok. I switched because my silverplate silverware was tarnishing and I thought it might be the detergent.

Also, I forgot to say that I usually use the normal wash cycle. I don't think I have ever used the pot cycle. We are hooked up to cold water.

Thanks Lucypwd, no I think I had the pot positioned well. Maybe it is the detergent, every Miele tech advises powder; it's just that I had been using the gel previously and have a ton left.

Do you think if you had scraped the pot out with a scrubber beforehand it might have helped? I've done that with good results.

I can't speak for the Miele, but FWIW--My Bosch would have cleaned it to a shine on the Regular cycle--IF, it were anything other than enameled cast iron. For some reason, my dishwasher doesn't do well with my one Le Creuset dutch oven.
Try some baked on sauce/cheese on a different pot for the next go 'round and accept that you might have to do a little hand washing on the enameled cast iron.

I burned some chicken teriyaki in Corningware casserole dishes tonight. I cleaned one in the sink and removed the loose stuff from the other. We'll see how our Excella does with it -- it may be time to us a whole tab (a half tab dispatches a load of dishes, glasses, and silverware with ease).

I sure wish the Excella could help clean the inside of our oven. Dum-dum (me) forgot to put a pan under the casserole dishes to catch any boil-over (which probably wouldn't have happened had I not been in a hurry and turned up the heat). At least the chicken was tasty and moist.

Very interesting comment from gini2 - maybe there's something about enamel cast iron?

Chipshot...if you're here, do you really find a difference between the cleaning performance using the Miele tabs vs. supermarket powder. Every tech I've spoken to says not to waste money on the Miele tabs...that's them, not me? I'd love to know user's experience.

I also use the Miele care tabs Eggcream. I really like them. They clean better than the Finish Quantum tabs (newer electrasol tabs that have the wrapper that melts just like the Miele care). I really like the cleaning performance and the fact that there is no residual scent left on the dishes. All the DW detergents seem to have lemon, orange or fresh scents on them. This has nothing and everything that I put it in comes out clean without question. My Le Creuset pots come out clean too. I usually don't have burnt on stuff but just really sticky things on the bottom. I barely scrape my dishes too. I ofter use the Sanitary or Normal Plus cycle. I have an older Miele G856 elite. It is about 8years old now.

Good luck!

I've had really good results using the Miele detergent. Liquid detergent usually isn't quite as good as powder.

Alex

Here is a link that might be useful: Miele Detergent Results

Alex, thanks for the demo, however isn't using Miele detergent in a Bosch machine sending a mixed message? Do the Miele tabs/detergent come with the rinse aid already a part of the product or do you continue to use a separate rinse aid?
Thanks again,

I've only ever used the tabs. Never seen a reason to try anything else. The box we bought will end up lasting us almost a year.

Below is a picture of the before, showing the brown stain on the white casserole dishes and their arrangement. After? Pristine!

I will give the tabs a shot,that picture is very convincing. Thanks.

The Miele tabs are just detergent - no rinse aid, no salt substitute. I prefer the powder because I can add as much or little as I want and also add some for the pre-wash. Too bad Miele don't sell the powder in the US - I live in Germany.

We have a Bosch dishwasher because, when our old DW broke, I found this one on eBay - brand new, almost top-of-the-line... and 60% cheaper than the RRP!

What's the mixed message?

I use half a miele tab in my Bosch and it cleans excellently well, too. I used to use Cascade and another powder of some sort (Pure Power or something like that) and that cleaned excellently, too. I prefer the Miele tabs because I find it easier to figure out the fraction of the tablet I need to use. I find it easier and less work than using teaspoons and whatnot ...

Oh Mindstorm, I'm hysterical, dumb me, I thought that Miele produced the video to advertise their detergent. You should be in advertising Wow you did a great job...I agree with you about the convenience of the tab; not having to dig into the detergent box with a measuring spoon.

Breaking the tabs in half is the toughest part about using them.

for those of you that use a half tab or less: are you cutting through the wrapper or is there tab that isn't wrapped? I don't get it..

I just break the tab in the wrapper and leave the next half in the box in what's left of the wrapper.

I thought that Miele produced the video to advertise their detergent.

I agree, it would indeed be a little strange for Miele to use a Bosch dishwasher to advertise their detergent... ;-) But these are my own pictures - no advertising intended. I also bought the Dishwasher Conditioner and it worked really well. Like everything by Miele it's pricey, though.

Alex