Toto Guinevere - so disappointed! looong review
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American Standard vs. Toto Toilets
Comments (44)jsaklas: "I have the AS Champion and it has NEVER clogged, my Kohlers have always clogged. I never owned a TOTO, but the TOTO Drake has a 20% smaller trapway (2 and 1/8" while the AS has a 2 and 3/8" which is an area 19+% smaller) and a 3" flush valve while the AS has a 4" flush valve, so I think it would be impossible for the TOTO to flush as well as the AS." Your personal experience with a real-world product is a valid testimonial; your rationalization for why is not based on good science. The diameter of the "solids" to be flushed is pretty much limited by human physiognomy. Every -- pardon me for using the proper word -- turd has a diameter that is limited by the orifice through which it passes. You will not find many -- if any -- turds that exceed 2-1/8" in diameter. The length of a turd, however, is less constrained than is its diameter. After passing through the trapway, the turd must make its way into a sewage line. And that is where many toilets made in China (whisper: "American Standard") fall short. You can have a FOUR inch trapway, but if the trapway ends in a 90 degree turn with a tight radius, you will get clogs from time to time. One of the limitations of the MaP test, revered by many, and 99 percent based on an engineering model developed by Toto, is that the MaP test ends at the exit from the trapway. But if a long turd has to make a sharp 90 degree turn from the exit from the trapway, the toilet will clog, no matter how capacious the trapway diameter is....See MoreToto Aquia wall-mount toilets - 20 weeks backordered
Comments (12)everyone of these models (except one and when I followed that link on Amazon - it was PEX after all) - I'm seeing has the "#1" or "-01" listed which is for Pex supply lines. Ours will be copper. That should show "-02". Already looked on Terry Love's site in the "shopping" but didn't post in the forum. There are a jillion places to look on the web. In the meantime, I found out that Duravit is cheaper than Toto in many cases. Especially Durvan's new sensowash bidet seat is cheaper than Toto's washlet. This shopping whether on line or in the local stores is a LOT OF WORK! I'll let you guys know what I find out. The Qualitybath.com folks talked to Toto who they make direct orders from (they are an authorized dealer) and they said the problem was with the Sanagloss. Now I'm wondering if the problem is with their copper supply. I can only speculate. But any of you who plan to purchase a TOTO fixture, I would think you should put that at the top of your priority list to order. Things could get worse....See MoreToto Guinevere vs. Kohler Kathryn... Opinions needed asap!
Comments (7)We currently have two TOTO Ultramax and we LOVE them. I just purchased my 3rd TOTO online. I bought a skirted toilet that will be easier to clean w/o the nooks and crannies. Our family owned many expensive American Standards, Kohler and other crap brands and had problems with all them clogging (several times a day). The plumber felt bad taking our $$$ that he finally told us to buy a TOTO or Gerber. We've been problem free for the last 3 years and no longer own a plunger or a snake. You will not find TOTO in HD or Lowes, only at high end plumbing stores. You can find the Kohler Kathryn at either Lowes....See MoreToto Carolina toilet and some general questions
Comments (5)It seems like the MaP ratings are the most objective assessment of flushing performance - true? It seems consistent with the anecdotal reports here. For example a lot of people speak highly of Toto Drake and that is the highest rated Toto on the MaP. Likewise someone said Kohler Cimarron was better than their other toilets and that one gets the maximum 1000 rating. I'm thinking that may be the best thing to go by - if I can find one on that list that I like. It's a weird analogy but this Toto toilet thing reminds me of the Miele dishwasher brand when I was remodeling my kitchen. The brand with the best reputation and for me it turned out to be the most disappointing thing in my new kitchen. For some reason I'm thinking the Toto experience could be the same - my expectations would exceed the actual performance - and I'd be wishing I'd gotten a cheaper toilet that just works....See Moremonicakm_gw
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