Cylinders are labeled by how much propane they hold. 10lb tank holds 10 lbs of propane, 20 lb tank holds 20 lbs of propane, 30 lb tank holds 30 lbs of propane. 20 lb tanks are more commonly known as BBQ size tanks. These cylinders are meant to hold 20 lbs of propane @ 80% of the tanks capacity. Blue Rhino is most certainly 'short-filling' their tanks to line their already bulging pockets. Also, Blue Rhino puts a plastic 'sleeve' around its tanks which advocates rapid rusting resulting in an ugly and sometimes unsafe cylinder. I have worked at a refill station for 10 years now and I can't tell you how many complaints we get about Blue Rhino tanks. It is not unsafe to put 20lbs of propane in a tank, UNLESS that tank is exposed to 120 degrees F or above, at which point, the pressure relief valve with discharge to reduce pressure inside the tank. You only want 80% of your cylinder filled because propane expands and increases in pressure when exposed to temperatures between 66-119 degrees F. This is why you never want to store a full tank inside. If in the case the pressure relief valve does blow off, and the tank is outside in a highly ventilated area, the propane will dissipate. Also, propane is heavier than air, so if you do have a leak, the propane will settle in low laying areas. Shut all electricity off and call your fire department if you suspect a leak. As for this new 'magnetic valve', I have only seen a few up in MA over the past 10 years. I empty the cylinder, and replace it with a fully functional OPD valve (DO NOT TRY THIS IF YOU ARE NOT CERTIFIED), this way it can be refilled wherever the rightful owner of the tank wants it to be refilled. I can't knock Blue Rhino for its convenience. It's about the only propane you can get at midnight at a 24 hr Stop & Shop. Try finding a refill station open at midnight (never!) If you think Blue Rhino is ripping customers off only filling to 17 lbs of propane. AmeriGas only puts 15 lbs in their exchange tanks!! With all this said, stay away from Blue Rhino and Amerigas. Blue Rhino is now owned by FerralGas which is the largest propane supplier in America. Support your local mom and pop refill stations. If your using Blue Rhino, your just lining the already rich pockets of corporate America. God Bless the USA! Thanks for reading! -Ben Gaetani Tanks 2 You Propane propanetanks2you.com tanks2youpropane@gmail.com Here is a link that might be useful: Ta nks 2 You Propane

Buy it. If you rent it, you can't price shop and will pay higher prices for your propane. You may also pay an additional premium as a captive customer, since you won't be able to predict your usage very well. They should be able to run off of one tank. For backup, I would buy a 500 gallon tank. By law, they can only be filled to 80% of capacity, so a 500 gallon tank only holds 400 gallons of propane.

Where do you live? What is your current system? What are your electric and propane rates? Are you interest in $$ or environmental impact? My first thought is that there are very few places in the US (if any) where a seer 19 or 20 are worth it. I think most would agree that seer 15 or 16 might pay for it but after that, you are doing your part to minimize impact but you are certainly not saving money. Payback on Geo is all about where you live and what you are likely to pay with the competing options. For instance - for my house the HVAC bill is about $1200 a year. Geo might save 30% (in my climate) - so payback would be about 30 years.

I'm in the LP business, here's my take on this. Pro's to owning tank: No lease fee, which eventually will pay for the tank anyway but it won't be yours- Can get gas from whoever has the lowest price at the time and can better haggle over price too. Con's to owning tank: If anything at all ever happens to the tank it's on you, where as if you lease it the company that owns it has to fix it and replace any lost gas. If you rent and change companies, the current supplier can charge you a pick-up fee but they have to pay you back for the gas. Most companies have a plan in place the determines at what point a customer has to pay rent, usually by the gallons purchased, and if so not every customer has to pay the rent fee. Personally, I recommend that customers only seriously consider purchasing Underground tanks, but not above ground tanks. At say $30/year it would take around 30 years for a purchased 500 gallon tank to pay for itself.