Modern Aire or vent-a-hood for 2k bucks less
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Modern Aire, Vent-a-Hood: Does 600=900? or Imperial?
Comments (7)To be brief, because this has been covered in various ways in myriad other messages: Fans have a relationship between flow rate (cfm) and the pressure difference across the fan. The rated flow rate of a fan at zero static pressure is measured in open air with, as one might guess, the same pressure on both sides. As the flow is restricted by one means or another, (e.g., the hood aperture transition, baffle losses or mesh losses, duct friction, etc.) the flow rate goes down. Some suppliers will rate their fan hood assemblies, accounting for some of the losses. In this manner they can claim that a 600 cfm assembly equals a 900 cfm fan, but that assumes that the fans have the same fan curve (flow rate vs. pressure drop). Fans are all different, so the only way to really guess what will happen is obtain the fan curve, estimate the losses through the entire system, including the pressure loss from imperfect make-up air, and then see what flow rate is achieved. kas...See MoreModern Aire Vent
Comments (6)Eandhl, are you buying direct from Modern Aire, or from a Dealer? I will say that a friend got quotes from dealers in her area (CA) for a MA hood nearly identical to mine, and the price came in a lot higher. (and Modern Aire wouldn't sell directly to her because there were local dealers in her area). I really think I just got lucky on the pricing of my hood. Probably MA hadn't really thought out their pricing policies for direct sales. I have been happy enough with the performance, but to be fair the hoods in my past have been pretty pathetic, so I don't have much to compare it to. On the Modern Aire hoods, both the fan speed and the lights are on variable setting dials, so you aren't limited to just High or Low options (a nice feature). It certainly isn't silent at the highest fan speed, but I don't find it to be bothersome. The 30" width seems fine for me--I'm sure its better to have a few extra inches on either side (ie wider hood than range) but I just didn't have the space for that. When I stir fry, I do still have to shut the door between the kitchen and hallway or else the smoke detector goes off--so I can't say my hood is sucking ALL the smoke out. But not bad. In my case, I think the issue has more to do with the depth of my range--the hottest burner is in the front and since the range is particularly deep, the hood doesn't fully cover that front burner. With a normal depth range this probably wouldn't be an issue. The Modern AIre hood is 24" deep, which is pretty standard (although Vent A Hood has some 27" deep models, I think) One sort of gross thing about the hood, though--I seem to get a 'grease bead' on the back corner of one of the baffle filters, that eventually drips onto my countertop if I don't dab it once every day or so. (I know, I know, the solution to this problem is probably to clean the filters more often!) I don't know if this is a Modern Aire issue or a general issue with baffle filters (or just a slothenly housekeeper issue !) All in all I'm happy with the hood, and wouldn't hesitate to buy from them again--but honestly I was more concerned about the aesthetics than about having the very highest quality or quietest ventilation available. I'm sure there are quieter, better-sucking (and probably cheaper, too) options out there, depending on your priorities! Hope you can find a solution that works for you!...See MoreModern-Aire Vent Hoods?
Comments (24)erikanh: that's the first picture of your hood/range I have seen, and it rocks! Totally different look than our kitchen but I love it. The way you've assembled the critical elements of cooking into a compact, incredibly efficient layout is fabulous. It makes me want to drop everything and start cooking right now. And, of course, the hood is gorgeous. Great job. rgjem: you are asking the right questions. Clearly if you are ducting straight out the wall, with only a very short run of duct, there is little advantage of an external blower, as the distance is too short to give you the noise reduction you'd want from an external blower. The alternative is to run duct all the way up to the attic and roof. That's what we did. That allowed us to use a Fantech inline blower and silencer, and the result is an unbelievably quiet hood. I am totally ecstatic with it, but others might not find it quite as ideal. The duct installation was a nightmare, involving many hours of HVAC consultation. The performance of the blower is reduced by the long duct run, though the layout of our range (which is in an entirely enclosed alcove, which greatly enhances hood performance) compensates totally: I can sear at max temp and have not a wisp of smoke escape. For me it was a no brainer but many others, who would prioritize cost, and maximum cfm performance, would choose otherwise. I am going to take the liberty of quoting a recent email from Jeff Herman at Modern Aire which I think is the clearest explanation of the pros and cons of internal vs external vs inline blowers (Jeff was aware I might do this). It was directed at another potential customer who had corresponded with me, thus the reference to my (Mark's) hood: Our hoods are supplied for use with our internal motors 600 Â 2400cfm, Abakka exterior blowers 1000 and 1400cfm, and Fan-Tech inline blowers so switching for the fan is not a problem. If you are planning on using the Fan-Tech inline I highly recommend using the silencer. It makes a very dramatic difference in regards to air and motor noise at higher speeds. The Abakka exterior blower is the quietest option we have going right now, but the performance is not as good as the inline IMO. If pure performance is the most important then our internal blowers are the best way to go, they are louder in comparison to MarkÂs set up, but are moving more air then the inline or exterior blowers at 1200CFM. Our internal blowers compensate for higher static pressure loads and do not slow down when connected to ducting making them a great choice for super long duct runs or duct runs with many turns or transitions" HTH...See MoreGrease drip from Modern Aire vent
Comments (16)"So where does the grease go?" The short answer is wherever gravity lets it flow. I'm surprised at Wolf for not including the ledge trays that collect grease that migrates from the baffles unless your liner design has the baffle assemblies level instead of tilted. In that case, the grease will fill up in the lower baffle part. This should be a slow process. Some grease will attach to the hood interior and to the ducting to the roof. The rest is expelled. The grease particles are of various sizes, described as a spectrum. The larger particles are easiest to remove with the baffles, and the smaller particles tend to be expelled. Intermediate particles are partly captured by the baffles, partly by the ducting, and partly expelled. Capture of grease particles by the baffles is by centrifugal impingement as the air and entrained plume are moved along an "S" shaped path past the baffles. This process expects some minimum air velocity to achieve the effectiveness intended by the designer. This is likely close to the nominal 90 ft/min at the hood entrance aperture needed to assure containment of the rising effluent. Hence, greasy effluent is best treated by operating nearer to full blower speed than minimal for containment blower speed. Noise and MUA heating needs may cause one to tend toward lower speeds and thus require more frequent cleaning of the inner reaches of the hood. kas...See MoreZivman
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