Range hoods....do they always need to be wider than the range?
artemis78
14 years ago
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Anyone installed their range hood higher than recommended?
Comments (24)My Wolf fan (purchased at the end of 2007) was made for Wolf by Broan according to Wolf. A few other Wolf fans were also made by Broan as of 2007. I cannot assert anything with respect to other Wolf fans or more modern Wolf fans. Contact Wolf for fan curves for their fans you might be interested in and compare them to Broan fan curves published on their web site. Basically what one buys when buying a hood and fan from Wolf is the comfort of knowing that compatibility has been established and no electrical hacking is going to be necessary to make a doit yourself scheme function. Wolf could impose additional reliability requirements on Broan, for example, but may not need to; a NuTone upblast roof fan I have used for my kitchen since the '70s is still fully functional today. So at least at one time the NuTone branch of Broan could build reliable devices. Using a circuit architecture that I am pretty sure GE published in the late 1960's or early 1970's, it is possible to control the amount of power available on a line by excising part of the sinusoidal voltage available. (The circuit actually allows part of the sinusoid.) While I can address the transfer functions and other details of triacs and diacs (once I recheck old literature), the circuitry to support them is pretty simple. This information is probably on line. These same circuits are used on lighting controls. The main difference between motor controls and similar lighting controls is that motor controls click on to full power, with rotation to lower power, and lighting controls do the opposite. More complex lighting controls also exist, such as zero-crossing switching, and have advantages in reduced electrical noise. These schemes could also be used for motor control, but are not in the case of my hood. By continuous I mean the the control rotates smoothly between full power to perhaps 10% power (have not measured this) over about 270-degrees of rotation. Ignoring quantum mechanics and grain boundaries, the resolution of the rotary potentiometer that is used for control is effectively infinite between those limits. The phase angle that turns on power each half cycle is adjusted by the control angle to fall between perhaps 5-degrees (out of 180) to perhaps 160 degrees. Turning on even later in the phase cycle would send power to the motor at too low a level for it to keep running. Is "infinite" a brand name? Induction motors of the type used by many fans can ususally be controlled over a reasonable range by phase angle control. They can also be controlled by variable frequency control, but this will be more limited as they are typically permanent capacitor split phase and designed for a single frequency. The Wolf hood control is mounted in the hood and is wired to the motor on the roof. I have seen its guts and that is why I know it is diac-triac type. Other control locations are possible, including wall controls. In that case a hood that does not contain a fan control would be appropriate. kas...See MoreHelp with mounting a range hood---do we need to modify the wall?
Comments (6)You can cut a piece of plywood (like 3/4" thick) and mount it on the wall to span the studs, then use that to mount the hood to. It will cause the hood to stick out that much further from the wall, so that might mess with your clearances. About mounting to the lath, depends on what you have. Now it your lath is like what we had upstairs, darn stuff was 3/4" by about 4" wide, with groves milled in to hold the plaster - and firmly attached with larger nails - even with a big pry bar that stuff held firm - and hard - wore out blades trying to cut through it. You could mount just about anything to that. Most of the house had the standard 1/4" thick by 1" wide lath strips - the kind you can break across your leg with minimal effort. Held on by 1" wire nails - very easy to pop off the walls. (they make wonderful fire starter- but mine are also 75+ years old). I saw lots of evidences where previous owners had mounting things to the walls. Sometimes the screw hole would be about 1/8" from the edge and the lath was split, sometimes they used a bit too much force and stripped out the threads that formed in the lath. From what I saw, I'd have no confidence using the lath for support other than to hang small pictures. if you go that route, you need to put in toggle bolts, not screw it to the lath. It could cause flex in the wall, and over time the plaster may crack. If you plan on tiling your backsplash, any flexing will could also pop off the tiles. For me, I'd be cussing, but I'd be finding a way into the wall (either front or back side, which ever is easier. Though with plaster that is a total pain, sheet rock is easy. Otherwise I'd be paranoid the fan it going to end up through my cooktop. We never mounted a fan to the wall, but we did have an OTR range that mounted to the wall and the upper cabinet. BTW - a good way to put in supports is to make a box out of 2x4's and then insert the box in between the studs, and attache the "sides" to the studs. No toe nailing needed, so you won't split the ends of the 2x4's. We had a lot of places we had to frame up using that method as we didn't want to open the wall up any farther than needed (just center line of the studs....See MoreNeed help deciding on range: mid-range or high-end?
Comments (39)So glad to come across this post. I am in nearly the same position. A 30" gas Kenmore Elite is supposed to show up next week and I am not excited! Nearly all my research on the Kenmore was positive and price wise it was good. I wanted a 30" gas burner, convection oven, slide in. Reading not so good reviews on the GE Cafe or any others such as KA or Electrolux (and and a significant up in price from the Kenmore) - sent me to the Kenmore. But honestly I don't trust the back control panel to last long & really don't like the look or need the features. I just want to turn the stove and burners on and off. We seriously considered the Bertazzoni but the oven was way too small (it is very pretty and basic functioning) and next thing we know are looking at Wolf for more than 3x the price of the Kenmore! It is amazing how you can mentally upgrade. We love to cook but spent the last 4 years with an ancient hotpoint that only had three functioning burners and was fine (my husband not so much :) I am glad to hear good things about the Cafe & others. Any more input on those 30" slide in "mid range" stoves - KA, Electrolux, GE - would be wonderful. And I am going to check out the NXR. Thanks....See MoreHood wider than range - OK with upper cabinets?
Comments (15)Angie, found your comment interesting. I have a bottle green Blue Star 30 RNB. Love the range, but like Tina have often thought may-be I should have gotten black or brown-black rather than green. I do like the green with the wood, and it restates the green used throughout our house, but still I sometimes think I should have gone with something more neutral, and that black or stainless would have been more "authentic" looking as we have a period looking kitchen. Do not want to hijack Tina's thread -- may-be we should do a thread on color range -yes or no?...See Moreartemis78
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