SHOP PRODUCTS
Houzz Logo Print
celticgal_gw

Help with noisy neighbors!

19 years ago

Hello :) I have a question and any and all advice is very much appreciated! My husband and I and our two children have lived in our apartment for 3 years. Recently we had new neighbors move in upstairs. Two 18 year olds who do not work, we have been told by one of them that their father pays the rent. They moved in and the first night they had a very loud party. We spoke with them about it and they were very apologetic. They seem to be very nice kids. The parties stopped but, these guys NEVER sleep at night. They don't play music loud but the problem is the constant walking and talking until 4:30 a.m. every single night. We tried to put up with it at first but, the lack of sleep was really getting to all of us. Our children have been walking zombies. This is impossible to sleep through. I spoke with them and they again were very apologetic and told us they would stop walking so loudly, and would try to keep the walking confined to the kitchen, living room, dining room and bathrooms at night. This lasted for about a week and now they are back to the stomping and dropping things and talking loudly again. I am at my wits end. The manager has tried to be helpful but, there is only so much she can do. Am I being too petty? I just am so sick of not getting sleep. I am paying an outrageous amount of rent and I can't even sleep at night. Please help! Thanks :)

Comments (90)

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    for the past 7 months my eyes have been red and irritated because i cannot have a good night sleep. my korean neighbors are not very loud, but their language is so low-frequency that it goes throught walls like radiation. they say that they are hard working people, maybe they are, but i dont know when they find time to sleep. their tv is on almost until 3am, and then to make things worse, their loud alarm clock wakes me up at 6:30am. its driving me nuts, i cannot believe how terriblely the walls are constructed in this luxury apartment ($1500/month). their should be tougher laws regarding sound proofing, people like us (sleep deprived) there are millions of us! we should unite and make the landlord install extra soundproof material in our apartments. this stuff exists, but it is costly, and the landlord should be responsible! we have to unite and congress should pass a "soundproofing act" for both new and existing construction! because lack of sleep is even worst then smoking! it is worst then lack of excercise, it should be dealt with! we are all hard working people who deserve sleep hours, and because of some goddamn "WALLS" we cannot sleep well!!! people are not a problems, its the construction of our homes that is the problem! WE DESERVE 2 INCHES THICKER WALLS GODDAMIT!

  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    "language is so low frequency" - what???

  • Related Discussions

    Noisy neighbors, me included! A rant.....

    Q

    Comments (24)
    Thank you all for your suggestions. Believe me, being able to vent my frustrations here at 1:00am really helped. I've really been a mess over this. I try to keep perspective, but after months of sleep deprivation, it's hard. Maybe I was a little pissy in my last post, but it was my birthday yesterday, and just wanted to have a nice day instead of it being ruined my these issues. You are right - a large part of the problem is shoddy construction. I do understand that my noise is annoying to my downstairs neighbor. That is why I've been trying to be as quiet as possible. I know that he was probably startled by it. His complaints are valid. But I also feel that I should be able to make a bit of normal noise at 8:30 pm, when I am very quiet 99% of the time, and never late at night. By the way, my upstairs neighbor walks around in heels, vacuums, moves furniture, and blasts music (in weird one minute intervals) from 11:00pm to 3:00 am after I have repeatedly talked to her about this. I don't really care about the rest of the day in terms of cleaning, walking and guest noises -just the night. She openly admits to being loud late at night, and has told me 'I will do what I want, if you can't deal with my f*-in schedule, then move'. That is why I think she is slime. I left a long message for my landlords this morning. They immediately came over (while I was at work), and talked to my downstairs neighbor. They will be coming this weekend to fix the floorboards - I am so relieved about this! I agree that he was out of line last night. If he continues to complain and slam on my floor once the floorboards are fixed, then I will definitely say something to him. My landlords then went upstairs and talked to the female tenant about being quiet between 10 and 7am. She was completely rude and arrogant to them, and told them that she will do whatever she wants whenever she wants. So, they went to the police and gave them her name - the police said to call them if she does anything really loud again. They then went back and told her they did this, and I think it really freaked her out. (oddly enough, my landlords told me that she had a black eye. She also told them she stopped working, doesn't care about getting a job, and will live off the money she gets from her 'other people'. Don't ask me how she can afford a Lexus. Must be nice.) Sorry to speculate. It's just strange. Again, I don't really think that the police route is the way to go, but if it will scare her into being more considerate..... My landlords also told me that they have a potential 'rent with option to buy' house that I am going to see tomorrow. I think it's out of my price range, but they are actually willing to rent it to me at the price I'm renting right now, for the first few months. I have really great landlords, I have to say. I really appreciate them. They did not have to be so proactive about this, but they did. I really called them just to make a complaint, and to talk about getting out of my lease. Instead, they immediately tried to remedy the situation. I know that there are a lot of awful landlords out there, and I am lucky to have people that actually care about their tenants. thank you all so much! I wish you all peace, quiet, and relaxation in your apartments (or houses).
    ...See More

    Fix all for Noisy neighbors

    Q

    Comments (22)
    I can empathis with those of you struggling with noisy neighbors. I have had three in a row. The owners are clueless and reluctant to ask upstairs tenants to tone things down. On top of it all they tiled all the apartments, claiming they put soundproof cloth under the tiles but my neighbors have a new child and they wheel her around on their office chair all day long....driving me from my apartment. I have tried everything from complaining to using earplugs - nothing works. I think asking people to wear earplugs is crazy, since I can not possibly ask my visitors to wear them and wearing them for too long can have health problems including ear infections. It costs way too much to move. The resident manager was even put on notice because her kids were making way too much noise in her upstairs apartment and it forced the tenants who were renting under her to move out - that cost the woners money and their relationship has suffered as a result. Constant noise is stressful and can result in health problems and I have not only been driven from my apartment several times, but in calling the law found the tenants upstairs only too willing to retaliate. The owners dont care. HOWEVER they have some open units. I will be making up a nice sign to hang outside my door warning visitors of a possible loud noise sitution if and when they enter and that they shold be expected to wear ear plugs and or have our visit terminated early due to the din....hopefully the message will get through because I have even had to go to a friends house for a couple of nights in order to get sleep because I was exhausted from the constant noise. I have even read articles about tenants who have suffered so long they were driven to extremes - one guy blasted his neighbors alarm clock with a shot gun because it was so loud and woke him early every morning. I am constantly reading - oh just move, oh it isnt the fault of the tenants, or you are too sensitive, these are just excuses for bad behavior, inconsideration and owners not wanting to spend any money to remedy the problem. I was raised to respect others, includig their sensibilities, live can be lived without being a nuisance to others and it should be, but complacency is the new norm now and people are forced to deal with issues that are above and beyond reasonable.
    ...See More

    Terrified of *BEING* a noisy neighbor, need advice pls

    Q

    Comments (4)
    but don't make yourself too subservient and groveling before it's necessary--you DO have the right to play your guitar and sing; your kids DO have the right to walk around their home and to occasionally forget to walk for a few steps. Bcs your neighbor may also take advantage of you, or be really tough to establish some boundaries. Plus, you don't want to start mentally focusing on the noise from upstairs; she may start noticing (and minding) things that she would have simply not bothered to notice, before. Just say, "Hi, I'm the new neighbor, nice to meet you; please feel free to let me know of any problems." Then just live the way it's convenient for you. Don't assume there's trouble before it happens. For example--you said you wouldn't play in the mornings--well, int he mornings, above ME, you *could.* I get up pretty early on the weekday, and even on the weekend, I seldom sleep past 9; if I do, it's because I'm tired, and if you can wake me up w/ your guitar, then I ought to get out of bed anyway. And if you played in the LR, so as not to be over my bedroom, you could play acoustic guitar until 4am, bcs I wouldn't hear it. (I might hear it if I stayed up late int he LR, but I don't) I check in w/ my downstairs neighbors now and then as well; I've got 2 kids, a piano, and not particularly thick floors. Here's what they said to me: "I never hear anything to object to" and "If I ever do hear anything, it doesn't last very long." Both answers that indicate to me that, they hear us often. But that they don't object, bcs they understand that most of the time we're doing the best we can, and they believe an occasional awareness of your neighbors bcs of their living noise is just life. Don't make yourself too paranoid. You need to be able to enjoy your life.
    ...See More

    Please Help - Am I The Noisy Neighbor?

    Q

    Comments (9)
    the big thing about "limiting walking aorund' would be that, if you're up after 11, and your bedroom is directly above theirs, go out of the bedroom. Don't pace around the bedroom, or watch the TV in the bedroom if it bleeds through, etc. Don't do your craft project in the bedroom; take it to the dining room after hours. But to not get out of bed to go to the bathroom, or adjust the clock radio, or to not walk gently around the bedroom getting dressed for bed--that's too much. My new downstairs neighbor works a shift that ends late, so he sleeps much later than we do. I walk softly in the morning, and I leave the bedroom quickly. (Of course, I'm just getting dressed, etc., but I make an extr effort to be quiet in the bedroom) Also, maybe what's going on is that you are SO quiet, that when you do make noise, she really notices it. That happened to us. We didn't vaccum for literally months. Like, 4 months. We were just never home, or when we were, we were either eating dinner, or our toddler was sleeping & we didn't want to wake her. Then, when we finally DID vacuum, the guy below went nuts banging on the ceiling. And, we were on the receiving end of that. For years we had an elderly, not particularly mobile woman living above us. Then, she went into the hospital and died. And for about a year, there was NO ONE above us. Then, the sister who inherited put the apt. on the market, and vacuumed 2 or 3 times a week. Wow, was it loud! Of course, we were intelligent enough to realize that the problem was US and our skewed expectations. But I wonder if that's it--you're out a lot, so when you ARE home, it seems really loud to her. As for what your landlord will say to others, well, ask them. If I were them, I'd be hesitant to say something that made it hard for you to get a new apartment--that would be definite grounds for a libel suit. Perhaps they could argue that they're being factual, bcs there ARE noise complaints; but them passing the info on indicates that they've endorsed the complaint, which they haven't.
    ...See More
  • 17 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I feel for you! my upstairs neighbor also said they were hardworking ppl! they stay up in odd hours, make great noises between 1:20-5:30AM, the floor is not carpeted! I cant tell if they are flipinos or mexicans, they are short & small ppl but they walk like heavy 1-ton elephants.

    and my next door neighbor, she is in the wheelchair, she is quiet, but sometimes she gets excited when the social worker who speaks her language comes, they talk so loud, I can hear everything but I dont understand one word--but it's very noisy. fortunately, she is very quiet during nite time.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Gosh. I am sorry to see how many people suffer from inconsiderate neighbors. But I am happy to see that other people feel my pain.

    We have been living at our Apt complex for 3 years. After the first year we moved from a second floor one bedroom (out of 4 floors) to a first floor two bedroom. In our one bedroom- we never ever heard our neighbors that were inside their units. But we lived near the pool and a major walkway and were woken up when young clubbers came home at 2 am (I was 31 at the time)- so we were happy to move to a non pool area- in fact we face the parking area in the back now.

    We loved our new two bedroom- it was QUIET! No more people breaking into the pool at 2 am! No more drunkies laughing past our windows at 3 am!

    That is until a month ago. July 2007. New neighbors moved in upstairs. Welcome to Hell.

    The first few weeks- we just thought all the banging and music and loud noises were them just settling in. R-I-G-H-T. We never had a problem with noise before- almost two years in this unit. We would sometimes hear our upstairs neighbors. But nothing annoying.

    Now the new neighbors wake my husband and I up almost every night at 1:30 AM. We are not sure if this is when someone gets home from a job.......but loud bangs, loud walking, door slams, noises that sound like people are chasing each other and then wrestling, talking from the balcony, and then the 2:30 AM bed banging, woman screaming porn noises. The sex noises are the WORST. And gross.

    I call the Security Patrol. They are supposed to turn in a report to management and to make "contact" with the neighbors. R-I-G-H-T. Nothing happens. So I finally called our management. I got an email back saying we have to call security patrol or they can't do anything about it. They need a report. I proceeded to call them- got someone and started very politely pointing out how our sleep is disturbed and then I started crying because when you lose 3 to 4 hours of sleep at night- you start to feel bad. Real bad. Your emotions are out of whack. Your body feels sick. We started taking Nyquil just to get some sleep. Is Ambien next? Why should we medicate ourselves just because someone else is super inconsiderate.

    I am sorta OK with the walking at 1:30 AM because using our AC or fans as white noise is isn't so bad. But the sex noises, the bed banging the floor waking us up- I can't deal with that. Because it's always at 2 to 2:30 AM. the same time every other night.

    Last Thursday was when I broke done on the phone with management. The upstairs neighbors had been fairly quiet. It's one week later. And last night the same thing- 2:00 AM- bed banging, thumping, woman screaming. Good thing they woke me up at 1:30 AM to hear their show. Didn't get back to sleep until 3:00 AM. I called security. I wrote a 2:30 AM email to management. I went outside and took a photo showing their unit was the only unit that had lights on.

    We are getting a video camera to tape their noises. This is war.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I had the same problem with noisy upstairs neighbors and I feel for each and everyone of you. Unlike many of you, I live in a condominium complex, and have lived here for a number of years without any problems with noisy upstairs neighbors until the family upstairs moved in, a girl with a scummy looking boyfriend who constantly has scummy looking friends over on a daily basis. Reasoning with them didn't make things any better as it just got worst. Aside from the usual excessive noise they had graduated to throwing cigarette butts in my patio to downright vandalism of my garage door. (the last one I have no proof) Of course they didn't yet know that I was a Sheriff's Deputy. It was just something I didn't want to tell them because I didn't want to sound like I was pushing my weight around, and I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe, just maybe they were reasonable good-hearted people. But as the spiteful noise continued to progress, even a nice guy like me has limits. While on duty I intentionally drove home in my cruiser at the time of day I knew they were sure to be home. I drove up the common driveway of our condo and sure enough their garrage door was open and the lowlives drinking beer in their garrage. I drove up slow enough for them to recognize me, and just stared them down without saying a word. Then I left, but not without issuing a citation to one of their guests who parked close to the fire hydrant on the street.
    Things have certainly quieted around here since then. The girl's boyfriend is now laying low and so have his friends who dont come over as often as they used to.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    What the heck does the size of the neighbours matter to anyone? Are you all stone racists? If you're implying that certain ethnic groups are noisier than others, say so out loud, but don't sidle into it and hope no one notices!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Certain ethnic groups are noisier than others. there, i said it. While it may be any ethnic group, the usual common denominator is education. So, whenever there is an education issue in your town, vote yes for it. believe me, i've lived all that you are all talking about. If you can't take it, either learn to live with it or move, these kinds of people will usually not change their stripes just because someone asks them to. By all means, follow the chain of command and video/audio tape noises, get a decibel meter and record that too. It's probably too much to do rather than move tho.
    I hope some of you quiet folk move in near me!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    LOL. Then why are the worst places to live, when it comes to noise issues, the apartments right around the college campuses? "Smart" people make a lot of noise too ya know.

    You really can't lump noisemakers into a certain group. It does not have anything to do with education or race or money or ANYTHING.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Sometimes it can be cultural, but even then generalizing is pointless. I do remember long ago having been in Greece for a few wks, coming home to downtown in the evening on a Sunday (big city) and thinking everyone must have died, it was so quiet (and boring!).

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    LOL
    rude -disrespectful people come in all sizes and heights and attitudes!!!
    i read some texts here and i think wow! at least i dont have all that going on!!!
    I do have things going on in the complex also.. but not like some of you.
    I would think tho, when u call the police, your just going to make matters worse on yourself.. for they will be OUT TO GET YA with more noise.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    We have a NEW neighbor that has no respect for the 3 other families she or her family or friends disturb. I thought the people before were bad. Ha. I never wanted to complain to them, it was just annoying living noise and what you have to expect living in an apartment.

    I don't want to create a war and make things worse for us. She and random people she has staying there (aside from one man who seems nice) give me the impression they would just make more noise within the hours they can without management getting involved (11pm-7am). When they had TV on so loud I could here it clearly in my apartment and the common hall way I banged on the ceiling twice lightly. I received 6 firm stomps back and the volume didn't budge.
    You can't teach people to be polite and have common sense. And sadly because people are paying rent they feel they should be able to do whatever they want with little to no regard for others.
    We are trying to wait til next year to move but I don't know how long I can put up with this. It's beyond normal living noise but not loud enough to call the cops.

    In my fantasy I take my shotgun and shoot it up at the ceiling each time they drop something early in the morning. If it hits someone that's the cost of being a rude SOB.
    While i would never do that it is one of the only things I can think of and laugh about with my husband when I am in the middle of a nervous breakdown/panic attack from the lack of quality sleep and enjoyable time at home after work.

    This post is from someone who won't vaccum after 8pm or before noon on the weekend. I also am careful not to slam doors or close them loudly. I take my shoes off in the apartment (with no one below me). My husband and I don't have sex late at night because we respect the neighbors upstairs who have no respect for us.
    It's just common sense folks.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Certainly one ethnic group is noisier than all the others, but when your peace is being disturbed by a noisy neighbor how much does it matter. Here are a few tips that have helped me to make it through lots of time on active military duty, dealing with party soilders and lying neighbors.

    - Those foam ear plugs that the military uses to protect hearing, really work wonders when trying to block out noise. It doesn't block out 100 % of all noise but used along with some white noise in the background will be very, very helpful. Just hope you don't have an intruder, because you may never hear him.

    - Try ignoring the once a year or so partying that has just become a little over-extended this time around. If this is your only problem, it probably isn't worth getting excited about and calling the police or management after your neighbor may just stir up resentment.

    - Lifestyle noise intrusions must be dealt with. Try praying first. Ask the Lord for wisdom, and to impress on your heart what the total course of action should be. Then follow through on it. I'v have found that when I do this, sometimes things that I never would have thought of come to heart.

    - Condsider moving to another room in the building (thats what I did with the neighbor's barking dog incident). If your considering small claims suit, you must have proof. Expect your noisy neighbor to lie because they probably will. (Hey, we do live in a fallen world and the heart of man is wicked) Don't count only on the testimony of another person. You need audio with decible readers, and perhaps video. You need to keep a journel with date and times of each incident. The more proof you have before you go to court the better.

    - Witness to your noisy neighbor. Tell them about Jesus and even hand them a bible. You might just win a soul.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    We moved into the apartment and have been here about a month and a half. When we first moved in upstairs guy played music very loudly all day and late into the night. We went to the office and complained, they sent a letter to him and it stopped for sometime but then started back up again. I assume someone else complained (you could here the music outside the apartment where everyone parked)because we have not heard it at all, but it has been replaced with his very loudly walking. When he's there it is the whole time back and forth and late in the evening after 12 and at 4 in the morning.. We called the office and the security officer, who we never heard anything back from the security officer. The apartment downstairs the people moved out and the maint. guy was there so my husband walked around our apartment and asked if he could hear us, no, but when we started walking very fast and very hard on purpose he heard, so now we know it's not us just overreacting to his walking. We contacted the gerneral manager and informed her that we could not deal with him any longer. Since the apartment downstairs is available we will be moving one flight down and they waived the transfer fee since we have had issue's with upstairs. I hope this works and we don't end upwith someone else above us with the same attitude. So we feel your alls suffering.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I have been putting up with what I call Neighbors From Hell! Since Febuary 07 a family of 5 moved into the 3 bedroom apartment directly above my apartment. 2 toddlers 3&4 yrs of age, 1 15 yr old daughter and a 13 yr old son.

    The mother is a fulltime welfare case, she does not work, the 2 toddlers are very out of control they run, jump, scream at the top of there lugs, they run, throw things to the wooden floor, from the time they get up at 6 am til the time they go to bed between midnight and 3 am.

    The mother yells at them, beats them does not take them any where. The 15 yr old son is addicted to fires he thinks there cool cause they get him attention. We have had two fires here one was in July, the other was a matress
    fire. The Police have been to there apartment numerous times. The land lord is convinced they are not in violation of there lease.

    The mother has been reported to The Department of Social Services, for the lack of care she gives her children. I have sent HUD letters, the landlord has give Housing Urban Devlopment snow jobs. I am sleep deprived. I do not feel
    safe living here. The neighbors have complained numerous times to the Police,both the neighbors here in the apartment building as well as the neighbors here along the steet.

    Nothing,absolutley nothing applies to the out of control family that lives directly above my apartment and nor is
    it enforced. The mother cannot be bothered to take her
    two toddlers to the public restrooms at the lake she has them defficate on the beach than turns around and covers it up with the beach sand.

    There are fruit flies in that apartment the 15 year old son was complaining about them it was suggested he clean up the apartment. The land lord had carpeting put down that
    is no thicker than a sheet of paper; and it has no backing
    to it. There is no sound proofing at all in this building.

    I wish there was a Comune for neighbors such as mine. I have found only 2 web sites as for ideas as to how to keep putting up with them; the don't have any consideration, or
    respect.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    And you are continuing to live there ... why??

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Yes lucy I am still living in the apatment below
    with my Neighbors From Hell!! I had requested in Febuary
    of 07 to be transfered to a quieter one bedroom; I was denied. The letter I received from my lanlord was a threat
    to eveict letter.

    To date I am fighting it and unfourtanetly the lawyers here
    cannot be bothered to do the nesscary paper work, like
    calling and requesting the Police reports, getting a copie
    of the tenant list here. Calling witnesses to confirm the excessive noise. To date I am very paiently waiting to
    hear from what I hope is a leagle advocate.

    It trmendously sucks living below dangerous people they don't give a crap, it is a free ride for the mother, the
    only thing her children know it it is ok to break the law
    cause than you get 3 squares and a cot. I really feel bad for the toddlers they are not devoloping right they are
    very slow. All that they are learning is from there pyromaniac 15 yr. old brother. That is very scary.

    I live in the country and the authorities that I have
    contacted cannot be bothered to do a real investigation.
    Perhaps if I lived in a major city it would be easier for them or that is more convienient for them.

    I will keep you posted with Febuary vacation next week
    at which I am looking sooo foward to listening to that
    out of control family and the mother beat the children
    I expect it will be an unforgetable week.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    But why don't you just get out? It's not like you don't have enough ammunition to break the lease!

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    also, it's been a year--how long is your lease? Surely you could have moved when the lease was up.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I had to move or I would have murdered the couple and 5 year old girl living above me.

  • 16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Depending on how brave you are I would let the upstairs neighbors know you are taking them to court. I believe you have every right to take this matter to small claims court. If you and your little ones are losing sleep that's not right, because you're paying rent too.
    You should also weigh your options, whether going through that trouble and expense (which by the way should be minimal) is better than the other option which is moving. Maybe if they know you're thinking of moving they'll feel bad enough to cool it, but I doubt it.
    If you move to a new place be very careful, and maybe consider living on the top floor! It isn't noise free 9I know since i live on the top), but at least you won't hear stomping on top of you.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I live in students halls and I have two very noisy neighbours. They're international students and I do understand that they may have a different kind of schedule over there - it's hot in the desert and people do stuff at night.

    Only this is, they NEVER go to bed at night. they're up the whole night from 9pm to 5 in the morning,running around, smoking, shouting to each other, banging on each other's doors, frying fish at 3am and generally making a racket.

    Then, they sleep all day and get up in the afternoon. It's lovely and quiet for them as we're all out at lectures. Plus, we're really considerate and always close doors quietly.

    That's what really keeps me awake - slamming doors. It sounds like a small explosion. Plus, the soundproofing in the UK isn't all that good. You're better off in old Victorian houses. The new stuff they're building now has wafer-thin walls.

    I've gone out in my nightdress and politely asked them to keep it down a bit. They laughed at me.

    I told the halls management who sent them a letter. Again, they thought it was funny.

    I've asked other students from their country to have a word with them. No luck.

    I should move, I know, it's just they charge quite a lot to transfer to another room and I can't afford it and pay tuition fees as well.

    The overseas students get a 25,000 pound annual scholarship from their government.

    This is great and there are many wonderful international students here. They're all very welcome. It's just the two blokes next to me and their four friends who visit them that keep me up all night.

    After a while, you get so angry, it's hard not to rush out and yell at them. I haven't yet...but lack of sleep really ruins your day. I find that I lie awake all night just waiting for the next crash and bang. I'm so uptight and annoyed.

    I've got earplugs and I wear a woollen hat with cotton wool stuffed underneath. I also bought a CD of pink noise from Ebay which I play all night on repeat. I've got three towels pushed against the door of my room. Can you think of anything else I could do?

    Anyway, thanks for listening. I can see from the other posts that I'm far from being alone. Your neighbours sound much worse than mine.

    Would anyone like to come over to Wales and live next door to me? You'd be so welcome!

    All the best,
    Bethan

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Can't the police do anything? Over here, every rental agreement comes (or usually does) with a clause about reasonable enjoyment of the premises, or some such legal thing, basically meaning that you have a right to peace and quiet (within reason), and there are laws about what times you can make noise and not. People don't always respect them, but you at least have the option, if the landlord does nothing, of calling the cops to come out and tell them to be quiet. Enough calls and you can get a legal injunction or something to get them kicked out or fined.

  • 15 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The United States is different from Canada, Lucy. I've called the cops on my neighbors & the police won't really do anything. They told me that the property owner or manager has to deal with tenant problems & complaints. The police will come out & tell them to quiet down, but that's about all. It does no good, either. The police no sooner leave & the noise starts right back up again. The best option is to move if nobody will take care of the problem. I'm facing this myself. Sad but true.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Some people just does not have the common sense to know when enough is enough. My upstairs neighbors are so noisy that it sound like bombs dropping when they walk, moreover because it became with intent after I was forced to address the issue to management because the tenants were not nice enough to keep the door open long enough to accept the allegation that they are just too loud, with the slamming of doors, dropping of heavy objects, letting the children use the upstair as the only play ground that they will ever really know, and throwing their bodies into the floor (reasons unknown). My little boy said to me one night when the noise was so intense, "Mom, see it this way, these people are in the dark, it is like they are in a maze and can not find their way out, so they continue to bump their heads into the wall." "Why would people dive into the floor when there is clearly a pool outside that they can swim in, but they would rather break their necks instead." He then suggested that I just use some earplugs for the time being so that I would at least not have to hear the siren when it comes to pick them up from their own injuries. This was way too funny, but the bottom line is, confront the situation at the first sign of it getting out of hand, try first with the neighbor, if no change, report it to the management each time it occurs, of COURSE the tenant is sure to retaliate NOW! Put it in writing to management. If after all has been said and done to correct the issue, and still no change, let management no that you want a re-let, and not to LET you live anywhere in this community, you would rather live somewhere else. Management does not like being put in liability situations, but they do when they don't correct issues like this immediately. There are clauses within your lease that protects you from the very thing that you are prohibited from doing, particulary what my neighbors call (Walking)?

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I just want to say if any of you are considering moving to a house please understand that this may not be the best solution to your problem. I currently live in a zero lot home where there are cheap builder AC units are in very small side yards. After a year or research and questioning authorities and local government agencies I have confirmed that our local code office illegally approved these units on the side of our homes. I have trouble concentrating sleeping or doing anything in my house when this unit is on in the neighbor's yard on the side of my house. I have explained the violations of code and the noise ordinance to him and he has refused to quiet his unit. I even spent over $1000 to put up a fence with soundproofing material that still did not help the problem. After two years of trying to be considerate and not just outright suing the boy next door, and yes I said boy a real man and a considerate neighbor would have at least attempted to create a solution instead of just ignoring a completely valid complaint. dBA levels at my property line ate peaking at 70.0 and 40.0 in my bedroom which according to the EPA is much too loud. Also the noise the unit produces is a low frequency level noise that can cause even more detrimental health issues due the low frequency vibrations fluctuating sounds. FYI the unit is 9 years old and the life expectancy of these things is 7-9 years old. My blood pressure levels are through the roof and I cannot even begin to explain the stress I deal with on a daily basis. If I cannot sue him in Chancery Court I will sue him in Small Claims for monetary damages.
    All I have to say to everyone who has posted here is make sure you choose a quiet/semi quiet environment by first investigating your surroundings before you move in. Never live below someone if you can help it. Talk to current tenants about the living conditions. Go to apartmentratings.com and do research on the property before you move in. If you decide to purchase a home think long and hard about the purchase a zero lot home and never buy a home where the AC units are on the side of the house. If possible make arrangements with the seller of the home to spend a few nights at the house before you commit to buying, if they refuse then that should be a red flag for you to move on to the next property. Also when purchasing a home please consider purchasing an older home because the newer homes are crap no matter how much they are valued at. This is the best advice I could ever give to someone that is moving to a new place. Do the proper investigation and make sure that there is not already any potential noise making machinery, outdoor dogs, and inconsiderate neighbors in the neighborhood. Most important make sure that any adjacent noise making machinery is nowhere near your house. You can call the cops on the neighbors for noise and also on the neighbors barking dogs. Usually you can get them cited to go to court and they will be ordered to stop the noise if in fact you can prove it is a nuisance. But dealing with mechanical noise from pool pumps and AC units may prove to be a little more tedious to solve. I hope this bit of information helps.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    thegrinch17, while what you are saying about the police is usually correct let me give you a little advice, though a bit tedious you can force local officials work for your hard earned tax dollars. I called the police out on random neighbors for allowing their dogs to bark loudly for long periods of time. After I had called many, many, many, many, times I still saw no difference. By this time I was livid and pissed at the Sherriff's Department for not doing their jobs. Granted in a case of noise the police cannot make anyone stop the noise but they can ask them to quiet down and if they don't quiet down the cops can cite them to appear in court. If this happens its a must that the complainant shows up in court to back up the officerÂs testimony, it would be really wise to do so. In my case I had video evidence to show the judge but the dumb neighbor pleaded guilty without even knowing she had. But anyway the way I got this barking dog owner in court was to write a letter to the elected official in my county for the SherriffÂs Department, since the other officers had refused to cite her. After writing the letter to him explaining my frustration with his officers I got a nice letter back from him stating that I would get a specific officer in my area to address all of my barking dog complaints. I canÂt guarantee this will work with everyone but when you are dealing with these county and local officials you have to have tough skin and you cannot let them say no to you just because they think they can, remember you pay their salaries and take care of their families. How in the hell can they say no to you when you are only asking them to do what they were elected/appointed/hired to do? If you are not passionate about things like this then you should move and not attempt to make these officials work for their money. ItÂs not easy but itÂs very rewarding to see that you helped make a difference for others that may have the same problem down the line. But when government and cities officials are not doing the jobs the hard working taxpayers pay for then itÂs up to us to make a difference. That may mean suing them in court and yes you can sue local officials and have the courts force them to do their jobs or to stop doing something.

  • 14 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    PLC1976, thanks for the advice, but my neighbor problem is solved! I moved a little over a month ago & my new place is MUCH quieter. I live on the top floor now & have no neighbors. It's sheer heaven! :)

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I myself live in an upstairs unit with my wife. We recently moved to a new apartment with a downstairs neighbor who complains about every breath we take. We do feel her pain. Honestly, we do. We are good people. We try to be considerate but her constant banging on our ceiling with her broom or whatever she uses is insane. I myself find it amusing to picture her taking time out of her life to stop what she�s doing to climb on a chair and bang on the ceiling. She even follows us around and bangs on her ceiling in every room we walk to. I do sympathize for her. Unfortunelty, our impact noise aka �footfalls� on the floor cannot be avoided. I am a big guy. My "heavy walking" as she calls it is unavoidable. We have tried to tip toe around but I have come to the conclusion that no matter what we do she�s always going to complain. For those of you that think that walking softer and tip toeing around is no big deal, I advise you to try it for a month. It is very life changing and not acceptable. We shouldn�t have to live that way. It�s gotten to the point to where we don�t care anymore. Don�t get me wrong, this is not airborne noises, aka TV, Stereo, Loud Talking, Parties. We do own a TV but it�s always at a low decibel level. We do not have parties nor do we own a stereo. We just make everyday living noises. Walking, Talking, Showering, Cooking, Bathroom Noises, etc. What do you expect us to do??? Moving is not out of the question if the facility where we live pays for the move. But that�s highly unlikely. I have talked to the management about the complaints and they told me there was nothing neither they nor I could do about it. She was just gonna have to deal with it. That�s the "con" of living downstairs.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    OMG do we live in civilised society>>>??
    My upstair tenants are on welfare with 3 kids
    I can relate to other postings but this couple have
    No respect for nobody. The dont say even hello withou
    Four words F,,, you can imagine low life welfare
    People who dont have to go to work enjoy all night
    With music ,dancing , shouting an screaming ....
    I have filed complaint with landlord and city ,hoping there
    is dome solution???

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You poofs are dumb! Call the cops and exaggerate, tell them you heard an EXPLOSION, someone being stabbed, raped killed, tel them you done tried and tried to talk to them and they threatened to kill you so u r scared to live there. They will arrest them or at least fine the hell out of them.

    NOTE: dont let them know it was u never ever confront them in real life just say u did.....

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    And when the cops show up & find no explosion, stabbing, assault or hostility & threats of death then the caller gets busted for making a false 911 call. A woman went to jail for a year & a responding officer was left paralyzed over a stupid prank like that.

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    OOH MY GOD..I sit here in the quiet ( in my apt ) listening to the lady upstairs banging on the floor like I am making NOISE!!! This is crazy I would watch Tv, she banged and said it was too loud so I put it so low I pretty much had to read the lips..She still banged, slammed doors and woke my 2 yr old grandson. My husband called the landlord who called her NOW it is worse. I have NOT banged back and even got a small speaker and put it on the couch to hear TV and if you are standing near me you cant even hear it and yet she still bangs , hits the floor like crazy she is doing it now, I just want to CRY! I know she drinks as I see her going across the street to the Package store and comes back with a brown bag a few times a day. She is a sad woman, no husband she works at a school cafe. She is always saying how she likes my apt. We live in a two fam. house, it is an old house and her sec was built up from an old upstairs I do believe, I hear her cough at night so I know these floors/ceilings are very, very thin. I have most of the house, I pay double then she does and have the covered porch and so on. She everytime I saw her outside made the comments about how lucky I am. To the point it bothered me. BUT I try my hardest to keep quiet very hard with a 2yr old BUT have him going to bed at 8pm. BUT this woman is banging when there is NO NOISE at all... How can she bang with NO NOISE???? It is very strange to me. If I was making noise I could understand it better. Right now she keeps getting out of bed, slambing doors and stomping around the rooms and I do not mean walking I mean stomping like a kid having a temper tantrum...I do NOT want to move but I cant live like this. I may need to call an attorney!!! and advice?

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    i did not know so many have the same problem as i do ...apartment are terrible to live in

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Easy. Go on www.dogdoo.com and send thems nice lil "care" package. :)

  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    This is giving me an idea... with the power of the internet, someone could start a website to maybe report on the quietness of various apartments, honesty and reliability of the landlords, etc. If there were only some way of vetting new tenants...the only (!) drawback this might drive the price of the apartments up, and as with the Tucker automobile, the government would probably want to shut it down. Can't have people living in peace, you know.

  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Ok so I moved into my apartment 4 months ago, yeah I know its not that long ago, but I also put alot of money into the place, I painted, completely remodeled the bathroom, put a new front porch on, and alot more. My problem is the lady that lives above me with her 18 yr old son. She doesnt pay her rent and has pretty much destroyed her place and the basement that we are to share.( I dont put my stuff down there for fear she'll destory it too) Ive told the landlord and hes been saying he looking to get her out but he never follows threw, Ive called the police but they cant do anything just jokingly said buy a good porn movie and turn it up. Ive looked into soundproofing the ceilings but thats $5500 for an apartment thats only $450 a month. Plus now my landlord is saying I cant do anymore repairs to my place or even upgrade the landscaping till she moves out. But who know how long thats going to be, its not fair. I pay my rent on time and improve my place Im nice willing to do whatever needs to be done, but this lady is the worst, she gets louder after I tell her to shut up. Should I dish out the $5500 to soundproof or just move? It sucks cause of all the money I wasted, but now I have to suffer because hes to chicken to deal with her. He actually has to sneak up to the apartment cause she runs and hides and she never answers her phone when he calls so he calls me to see if shes home. Its a pain. Help

  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Two years ago we had upstairs neighbors who had a late evening "game" of dropping a heavy object onto the floor, over and over and over. Repeated pleas didn't work. We finally called the police a few times, and those chaps are gone, so having been in this situation before, I empathize, and wish to take issue with a couple of replies.

    The two young men in question are not 12 years old. They are 19 years old. Excusing them from basic, common courtesy because they are "teenagers" is nonsense, as is saying that the problem noise is related to them being "out on their own" for the first time. As daddy pays their rent, they are hardly "independent", and even if they were, with independence comes responsibility towards others. Unless they are vampires, late night loud noise is inconsiderate and largely inexcusable, especially if it has been nicely brought to their attention before. Another person told the aggrieved to offer to buy the men carpeting. If someone told me that MY late night activities kept them awake, I would buy carpeting myself, or remove my shoes, etc. Again, it's about "courtesy" and presence of mind, something that is lacking in people of ALL ages. The fact that these men seemingly lack it is one thing. That readers here would make excuses for this is quite another. Ten to one, "daddy" is glad to have them out of his house.

  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    you all do not realize how nice it is to know that i am not alone. i have lived in my current apartment for 5 months and from day 1 my upstairs neighbors made excessive stomping/dropping/scraping noises all through the night. i've never had noise issues with neighbors and i now "sleep" with a noise machine, box fan and ear plugs and they still wake me up. from day 1 i've been complaining to no avail. its awful. i love my apartment but i am completely stressed out every time i'm home. i never know how bad the noise will be, how long it will last and if i'll get any sleep. i feel like i'm in an abusive relationship. i didn't know i might be able to change apartments so i'm going to talk to my apt mgr again and see if this might be an option but i've already been counting down the months til my lease is up.

  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    hi call the cops for this nuisance, is the only way to get rid of it...

  • 12 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    @plucycat, I think you may be suffering from anxiety, just like me. I used to love living in the 1st floor condo we bought fe wears ago, now I avoid being home as much as possible thanks to my upstairs neighbors. I leave the house on purpose every night at around 6pm for a couple of hours when they come back from daycare so to give them time to get settled. They used to be done at around 8pm, so I would come back then and be able to have a quiet dinner. Now they have pushed back their schedule and the kid stomps around until 9pm EVERY NIGHT. Mind you, their apartment is on 2 floors, so I have asked them after 8pm to please take the kid on the 2nd floor and play with him upstairs. It was a waste of time. On weekends they never leave the house, so it is constant noise from above and as the kid get older and heavier the noise becomes louder. Again, I leave the house as early as I can every weekend to avoid having to live through that. .
    But it is not fair, I pay a mortgage and have the right to be in my house when I want to. I do not blast the TV, do not have loud parties, do no smoke or do drugs or anything crazy, they have a nice place to live and I have a hell.
    And please do not tell me it's normal apartment living, because it is for me but not for them! So clearly it's not apartment living for everyone, just those unlucky enough to have inconsiderate neighbors! Those of you who say 'just move', let me tell you moving is not always an option, some of us don't have money to move to another place, and some of us are stuck with owning their place.

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Im in the opposite situation, We live upstairs and as a active family of four, we tried to maintain a normal live. For the longest I've constantly told my daughter to not run in the apartment, play with the ball inside, normal things she will be doing. My son and wife will work till 1 am in the morning, come home late get things ready for the next day. whether its getting something to eat for the night or just finding a way to unload from the work day. The floors as I noticed creek or shake as someone walk in certain area of the living area. We don't have parties or blare loud music but just trying to have a normal living life. I have emailed the office manager explaining the situation from the neighbor downstairs banging, hammering, slamming, and finally banging on the door as if to knock it down and rum away. One night my wife was just blow drying her hair dry after a shower and preparing for school tomorrow when he decided to bang on the door again. I've called the PD explaining whats going on. For once we had a family dinner and he banged on the door once, went to answer the door and no one there. Banged on the door later on and he was there. He now called the PD on us, of course it was about to finish and everyone was on planning to go home.
    Its getting to the point to quit living on egg shells and worry if I can fart, burp, or even walk to the window without hindering the downstairs neighbor..
    Apartment living is not like living in a home, I understand his issuses but we can't just lay dead and not move. Our units are not sound proved, I could hear on one side the neighbors having late nite sex, on the other end, have some kind of excerice machine. So in my case I am trying but can't do anything beyond my control of the unit..

  • 11 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I hear ya celtic gal! I have the same trouble except my upstairs neighbor is a fat black woman with an unemployed son and a mannerless child. I work third shift alot and am awakened to the thumping,bumping, and running. So, I tried my own warfare. While I'm awake and they are sleeping make noise to wake them. This didn't work, now she's complaining it's "racial". Anyone with ideas?

  • 9 years ago

    sistergirl2_gmail_com I know this is an older thread, but WOW, I AM NOT ALONE!!!! I feel your pain completely, I am going through the exact same thing, 4 hours of sleep per night for the last 3 months. I cannot function, my job, relationships, eating have all been compromised. This truly takes a toll on the body and mind. I am also at my wits ends and have come to the conclusion I will be buying some NyQuil to knock myself out so that I can drain the banging and constant late night blaring excessive surround sound. I thought I had my dream, but now I am living in a toxic environment and have lost myself. How are you doing? Have things gotten better for you?

  • 8 years ago

    The few good comments have been drowned out by all the complaining.

    Listen good: there is nothing you can do about it. Period.

    To the person saying they never vaccum before noon or after 8 - what if your schedule required you to sleep from noon to 8. You're the unreasonable one.

    About the 19 year olds - they stopped partying but now walk around too much and talk. That is not a complaint and their age is irrelevant. You're the inconsiderate one.

    Shut up or move.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I know this is an old post, but many, including myself have been tormented by this spiritual intrusion within our lives. By now, they have captured you, your children and any other individual who may sleep in your apartment.

    They start by following you around your apartment, they walk like they just got new feet and new shoes. Hard, all day and all night. When you go to the toilet, they all rush and stand over you, when you eat, they stand over you. When you sleep, they stand over you and drop a heavy item over you. After you first lay down, they drop a heavy item and throw some things sounding like metal on the floor, then it's all quiet. I used to move to a new location and each time the process would be repeated.

    Around 2am each night this goes on, they ran me OUT of my apartment, and I started sleeping on buses, benches, lost my job....Really screwed up my life.

    I thought at one time they arrived because my spiritually was low, so I started back going to religious meetings and reading the Bible. My ministers tell me they are DEMONS....I say ALIENS....HE SAYS WHATS THE DIFFERENCE.

    It's been scary, I would wake up and they would be pulling and tugging at my spirit. I am anchored in the LORD, so they couldn't take me over that way. Then they started with placing things in and on my body. It's been a year in August since I moved and I got some type of crawling creature attached to my right thigh. It has tried on 4 occasions to enter into my body, it is the greatest pain I have every experienced, and I have birthed many children.

    They tag you on the bottom on your feet. They whistle to each other on the streets and they are EVERYWHERE. Once while standing in my kitchen, they dropped something so heavy over my head, my body trembled for 15 minutes, they the things started signaling to each other. I have done every thing I can to rid myself of these spiritual parasites. They still swarm around me, they try and enter into my body, they still disturb me in my sleep, but it's less. I moved to new apartment on top floor and people under me drop things when I go in kitchen or walk on certain places in the apartment. I am still plagued by them. They have tentacles, which probe and travel in your body. My co worker was going though same thing, she told me they had tentacles so I know she knows what she is talking about.

    An old lady on gospel radio called in for help says she was experiencing the same thing, 2 ladies on the bus were talking about. The mode of operation is always the same. Someone following you, then dropping things, standing over when you sleep. I think the DEMONS have coupled with those who practice magic and voodoo, the dropping things takes the covering off your spirit so they can gain access to your body.

    I was sitting in a nail shop two weeks ago and lady came in and sat behind me, all of a sudden something stepped into my body utilizing my right foot, I felt it grab at the things in my head and then throw them away. These entities are driving human bodies, the sensors they hit me over the head with is like communicators. They cover feeling, touching, tasting and movement in the brain.

    In the Bible angels used to come down and transformed themselves into human bodies, They shed those bodies after the flood. Got took it from them. The rebellious angels were kicked out of heaven, now in the name of Jesus Christ they were able to be cast out. With this new system they now have more resistance to being cast out, because they are taking the souls of they flesh that they inhabit. It's a whole new ballgame.

    The more I surround myself with spiritual things, they less power they have. I have literally torn up many Bibles, from covering my body from their biting creatures. They enter through your pain gate, while sleeping I woke up one night, heart beating 220 beats, they invaded my body and placed this creature in my right thigh. I woke up in the middle of then trying to do my left thigh only to feel like a hand was withdrawing from inside of me from my opened mouth.

    Its been a right fight...Spiritual warfare....and they whistle in my place of worship when I go near them....They are EVERYWHERE. I FEEL LIKE THE NEW VERSION OF INVASIONS OF THE BODY SNATCHERS.

    This creature moves, jumps, attacks me, I figured it's affixed statically on my nerve. You must read the Book of Enoch, and the Bible to get help. Like any other parasite, they hard to get rid of. You can't talk about it most people they think you crazy. I was being attacked at my job, so much I had to go into HR and complain. Funny thing about it, I lost that job....not mad at all, but the rep at the unemployment office understood when I said I was attacked spiritually, there have been many things done to me over the course of they last two years, it took me a year to move out. My faith is in God and the more I draw close to him the less power they have over me....That is the key....Surrounding yourself with the opposite power, the opposite spirit. Pray, reading, repenting, worship...it's lessening, but still there. I saw your post and just wanted to respond.

  • 7 years ago

    I found this thread while looking for an alternative to HUD apartments in New York State which, according to code have spring loaded front doors for all the apartments which open into the halls. This is the third HUD building I've lived in with these doors which sound like a small bomb when they slam full force.

    Of course there are options. Fortunately I qualify for senior housing and seniors tend to be quieter. One option is to hopefully find an affordable senior building that is well managed and not more than one or two storeys where the apartment front doors open directly to the outdoors [the 2nd floor apartments also open to the outdoors and have exterior staircases for descending. I have seen such complexes but have not yet found one in upstate New York or Sayre, Pennsylvania were I prefer to live.


    It will be interesting to find out if HUD regulations for spring loaded apartment doors are the same in all states. How to find this out?

    It will also be interesting to find out if HUD allows weathering stripping, bumpers, or hydraulic brakes on the spring loaded apartment doors. I note that the doors of our laundry rooms and TV rooms at the floor ends have brakes as do apparently all spring loaded doors on the ground floor where staff spends most of their time.

    I hate moving and I tend to agree with at least one commentator here that oftentimes when you move it will just be some new issue--but that's not always the case, especially if you do your research: Go to the prospective new apartment in person and hang out and question tenants, neighbors, police and check online comments.

    After reading the many horrible accounts in this thread I feel realize that my housing situation is about "as good as it gets" for HUD. I've lived here for about three months, an although there is some room for improvement[primarily finding a way to silence the spring loaded slamming doors] and I would like to share it

    We DO have smoke alarms which are quite loud and go off for about 10 minutes a few times a week.

    If you are able to relocate to Ithaca, New York my complex, Titus Towers I & II is probably one of the best HUD senior complexes in the country. All applicants are fingerprinted and vetted via the FBI. I'm serious. Most of the tenants are very considerate and friendly. There's a large community room, a busy activity room with pool table, desktop computer for tenants, aerobic exercise equipment. There's a large kitchen downstairs which serves hot lunches during the week. There's a large lot in back which is forested and has two gazebos and a community garden. The site is landscaped and frequented by many cute squirrels, ducks and deer.

    Mail parcels are delivered to you apartment door. Nearly all the tenants try to be respectful and get along with one another. There's great covered seating outside to wait for the bus. There are many activities and even a hair salon on the first floor.

    One of the best features is shopping. Barnes & Noble , Tops supermarkets, and the world class upscale Wegman's market are within two blocks. Many other upscale shops, fast food restaurants, Hobby Lobby, Staples, T.J. Max, Walmart, Dollar Tree and much more are within three blocks--all beautifully landscaped and handicap accessible.

    During the week there are two full time nurses and a social working in their offices on the site.

    The management here seems to be a very caring and concerned about the tenants' well being. There's a tenant council office on site. There's also a chapel in the building. Waiting list is approximately 6 months.

    If you want to consider moving here I highly recommend that you come to the building and chat with tenants who are out and about on the grounds such as waiting for buses.

    Ithaca is a great community. It has often been rated in the top 10 for retiring. It tends to be a little to liberal for my taste but this has it's advantageous as there is much activism for the poor. There is so much food available for free from Ithaca food pantries that I cannot eat it fast enough.

    Ithaca is also a great community for gay friendly living. Also, if you are into Buddhism Ithaca is the North American home of the Dalai Lama and home of his Namgyal Institute for Buddhist Studies. There are also other Buddhist organizations with a presence here. Being Buddhist in Ithaca is regarded as quite normal, if not laudable.

    Our building appears to be hosting a number of Asian Buddhist refugees. If you are a Buddhist looking for a supportive community to live in I urge you to relocate to Ithaca. If you are a Buddhist senior 55+, a low income Buddhist looking for an affordable Buddhist community alternative I urge you to check into Ithaca for Buddhist living and Titus Towers.

    NOTE: I do NOT recommend any other subsidized housing in Ithaca because I am a new resident here and I am unfamiliar with the other complexes and I have heard some bad reviews and read bad reviews online about them. Ithaca is one of the most expensive housing markets in the U.S. with one of the lowest vacancy rates but you tend to get what you pay for and part of the reason for the high cost is the plethora of services available here and the highest employment rate of any small city in New York State.








  • 6 years ago

    Same here. We had to leave the Waterways in St Charles, Mo due to brown recluse spider infestation, and not able to sleep due to all night parties, motorcycles, dogs. They lied about no smoke, dogs, and parking. There was no onsite mgr so they ignored our complaints while they continued to increase rents without warning. It became a kennel and a haven for smokers and questionable tenants. They refused to enforce quiet hours and ignored scary problem issues. The responsible, clean and quiet tenants are always the ones who have to move - never the rude noise-makers. Beware of false advertising about quiet times, smokefree, safe, parking within blocks of your apt, etc - they're lying.

  • 6 years ago

    Hello,

    If its to the point that its ruining your lives maybe consider moving...maybe mortgage a house in the boonies. It may be cheaper and def quieter. I know one thing...18 yr old kids generally dont stay in one apt too long...at least in my experience. Hope this helps.

  • 6 years ago

    Old thread. Crazy one too.

  • 8 months ago

    I have a neighbor to the side of me that walks or paces rather loudly. The other neighbor on the other side is fine, I don't hear her. But the one I do hear also has a habit of slamming doors occassionally. i've tried talking to her but she sees me as a crazy old man harrassing her. I've tried complaining to the landlord but apparently there is only so much they can do. The police got involved as the noisy neighbor called to complain about harrassment. When I tried to explain the situation this last officer obviously took the neighbors side because he said I was being petty and chldish. Noisy neighbor has also threatend to hit my new car with her car, but I'm being petty and childish about a loud crash outside my aprartment at 4:30 AM waking me. The officer also said that I was being childish. I am not an some crazy old man. I don't feel safe in this facilty so I am looking for a new apartment.

Sponsored
My Kitchen And Bath
Average rating: 5 out of 5 stars55 Reviews
Virginia-Based, Leading Kitchen and Bath Remodeler Since 1994