Your hybrid preference: Ramapo, Jet Star, Supersonic

Bob_B

15 years ago

Which one do you like best? If you prefer still another hybrid not mentioned, what is it?

RB

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digdirt2
15 years ago
Hybrid? Brandy Boy

Of the 3 you list, Supersonic.

Dave
tomatomike
15 years ago
I grow mostly hybrids. My favorite can't be limited to just one. My top three are Sunsugar, Goliath and Champion II. Next year I am going to try Brandy Boy since it is getting such high marks this year.
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Although it's true I prefer heirlooms, I've grown quite a few hybrids and still do from time to time, and since I grow primarily for taste the following are ones I prefer: Sungold F1 Jet Star F1 Supersonic F1 Moreton Hybrid F1 ..... and the last three above are older Harris hybrids which I think have excellent taste. Ramapo F1, just reintroduced having been out of production for quite a few years Big Boy F1 Better Boy F1 And the above two are two of the earliest popular hybrids offered back in the late 40's for Big boy F1 as bred by Dr. Oved Schifriss at Burpee and Better Boy as bred by John Peto at Petoseed and released in the early 50's. Both of them have one parent in common, and that's Teddy Jones, a large pink beefsteak heirloom from the midwest. Carolyn
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Chemocurl zn5b/6a Indiana
15 years ago
It's a toss up between Jet Star and Supersonic. I have never grown Ramapo.

Sue
carolyn137
15 years ago
Of the three you mention I've grown all three, many times, and I can't pick one over the other and so suggest you that you grow one each in succeeding years of you don'thave room to grow all three in one season. ( smile)

I'm not going to mention other hybrids b'c I know you'll get a variety of answers with little consensus and you did ask about those three which I think are just great.

Carolyn
elkwc
15 years ago
I left a response last night and not sure why it isn't here. I second Goliath. It is the one hybrid I plants every year. A great dependable standby. With great flavor. This year which was the worst I've had in 40 plus years of growing tomatoes it has still done well and is loaded. I plant mainly op's but always save a slot or two for it. Truly a workhorse that withstands many of the diseases and problems found here. I've tried all the ones you've mentioned along with most of the other popular ones. The main thing is to try several and see what does well for you. My Ramapo looks nice but only has one fruit. So it didn't like this summer. Brandyboy is a nice one but a moderate producer here. JMO
tomatogreenthumb
15 years ago
Of those three....Supersonic.

Has anyone tried Early Goliath? It has done fine for me this year, gobs of small but tasty tomatoes, and survived the blight and crazy weather this year. NOT really early though.

Owen
rocklandguyZ8,SC
15 years ago
It is hard to decide between Jet Star and Supersonic. Both did well for me. I did notice that Early Goliath seemed to outperform all others for me this year. Goliath did not do well, but I will try again next year. Bradley, Big Beef, Celebrity, Rutgers, Campari, Burpee's Burger, and Beefy Boy also did well. Big Zac & Mortgage Lifter had a couple large toms, but no quantity. Porterhouse had a lot of large toms. The losers that won't be back next year are 4th of July, Big Boy, Silver Fir Tree, Ramapo, & Riesentraube. Sweet 100 will always have a place in my garden. To me, it was a great year until all this hurricane related weather hit. But I still have loads of toms on the plants.

Paul
sautesmom Sacramento
15 years ago
You don't say why you list these three tomatoes or what you are looking for, but Jetsetter is a star in my garden, for flavor, long production, heat resistance, and resistance to nematodes and verticillium wilt.

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bigdaddyj
15 years ago
BrandyBoy
Momotaro
one_eyed_pony
15 years ago
RAMAPO... is far superior.

Grew 20 different varieties this year and the top vote getter for Appearance, Grown, Yield, Color, Immunities, and reliability. It's kinda the tomato you would use for pictures/commercials.

We were all surprised, but there was extensive research in developing this tomato. Rugters University did a good job and here's their website for info. Plenty of information

http://www.njfarmfresh.rutgers.edu/JerseyTomato.html

RAMAPO will be our garden staple for the future. Very happy with them.
cabrita
15 years ago
Bob b, you are in California too, so I will say Momotaro. Great combination of nice taste, productivity, pretty large fruit, nice color and shape. I was disappointed to find out it is a hybrid but even so I will seek it and grow it again.
barkeater
15 years ago
Ramapo, by far. Jet Star is very good ( I've grown 1000's of them in the past when I farmed), but still not as flavorful. Supersonic is the most productive, and very , very solid, but not as good.

Momotaro is the other hybrid I wouldn't be without. It's the best flavor of all this year ( to date).
davidguss
10 years ago
I grew all three this year. I was most impressed with Supersonic. It was larger than Ramapo and Jet Star. There was very little cracking. It was the most productive of the three. And the flavor was very good. I did not find the flavor of Ramapo or Jet Star to be any better than Supersonic. Supersonic will be my main tomato next year. Will also have an Early Girl and a Besser. Besser produced hundreds of golf-ball size fruits, there was no cracking, and the flavor was very good. It is a beautiful tomato on a veggie platter. It does need a lot of room - a very vigorous plant.
thebutcher
10 years ago
I never grew Jetstar or Supersonic but I grew the Ramapo and 4th of July this year. But I will try the Supersonic and Jetstar + the Morton next year.

As far as the Ramapo F1, I estimate that I had about 65+ per each plant so far out of 5 plants along with 1 4th of July plant that produced around the same. There are still 45+ tomatoes in total approching maturity that have begun about a month ago to sprout.

Last year I grew the Early Goliath but was brand new and 4 plants only produced about 40 maters but I think that was my bad since I did not fertilize ect and being new and did not water properly.

The photo below shows the head on shot of theRamapos in its current stage (the fourth of July is 2nd on the right but it is hard to see) and the last photo is one of the Ramapos with a Kellog Yellow Beefsteake in the backround that was pretty good too but was planted late in the season (around late June).

I guess what I am trying to say is that the Ramapo does not give up in producing for me yet even with 45F nights and mid 60s, however we have a frost approaching next week so it will come to an end,

- Mr Beno

This post was edited by thebutcher on Sun, Oct 20, 13 at 17:08

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