Yes

Thanks. Bad news for my other birds...

Hi Ruth,

I am not so sure about this one. His breast streaking looks a lot like a Sharp-shinned Hawk streaking.

Luc

The streaking does look somewhat thick for a coopers hawk, but I would say that it still is a coopers. How large was the bird flowerpot? Jay sized? Crow sized?
The tail looks to have a large white rim, indicative of coopers also.
Nathan

I think I see what you mean. This bird does not have thin, brown streaks, but they aren't exactly coarse brown blotches either. He was at least crow-sized. Sorry, not a good tail or leg shot. Ruth

Juvenile Cooper have light gray eyes, conspicuous white supercilium, good head.
This bird is not so big compare to the needles and fruits of this tree.

Just my opinion,
Luc

Nah, if she says its at least crow sized, this confirms that this bird is a Coopers for sure. And as for the needles, they are not a good indication of the birds size. Depending on which type of spruce tree this is, the needle length could vary considerably, so unless you can tell exactly what tree species this is, then needle and cone size is not applicable.

Nathan

Hi Nathan,

You could be right saying it is a Cooper Hawk, I am just expressing a doubt I have in mind.

By the way, I think the tree is a fir with its cones upright. :-)

Regards,
Luc

The tree was identified as either Abies lasiocarpa or A.bifolia. Needles on this tree are about 1 1/2". Thanks Ruth

A balsam fir, i see, with needles 1 1/2 inches. Yah I see where your coming from Luc with the streaking on the chest, but it still is thin enough to say Coopers to me. Also the presence of those distinctive white tail "rim" also points to coopers hawk. The fact that she says it was easily as large as a crow clinches it in my mind that its a coopers hawk. But disagreement is good in catching mistakes so thanks.

Nathan

I just compare the bird on this picture with those on Bob and Bernie's pictures and now I think Nathan was right saying Cooper. The breast streaking of this bird is enough thin to be a Cooper. Also the malar area is darker on Sharp-shinned Hawk.
Using Bob's hint about the forehead. I must say there is no big forehead on Ruth's bird, so, one more point for Cooper.

Luc

Luc - I just posted on the other thread and saw this. I just thought of something I think I read on another thread about the size of the legs being smaller on the Sharp Shinned Hawk. Bob and Bernie's sharp-shinned hawk's legs looked bigger. Ruth

Luc, look at the picture Ruth posted on our thread. It is in profile and it looks just like our Cooper's. BnB

I just saw that other picture and now I agree completely with all of you. Ruth's bird is a beautiful juvenile Cooper.

I had a great time looking at these pictures and trying to id the bird.

Thanks,
Luc