I was just noticing the other day they have completely cleaned off my Sparkleberry holly(hybrid between verticillata and serrata)while my Winter Red(only verticillata) is still loaded. I think Aronias are called Chokeberries because they aren't palatable, even to birds, unless there is absolutely nothing else!

"But.....I'm thinking it might be a hard shrub for larger birds, because the branches are so droopy, and its hard for the birds to settle on them to eat." Catherine - This statement brought to mind watching grouse (which are medium large, rather ungainly birds) feeding on crabapples in late winter in a rather young tree. The branches wobbled, the birds flapped and staggered trying to keep their balance, but the tree was eventually stripped of fruit. It kept us entertained for at least a half hour, with half a dozen grouse in such a small tree. I guess if they are hungry enough, they will work for the food.

I agree that Kevin has the most perfect approach. However in my case I can see myself getting arrested if I even tried to cut down or back any invasives on public property. The Nature Preserve that I was talking about has a big sign prohibiting digging, cutting, or otherwise tampering with any plants on the preserve. Even if they didn't the amount of Porcelian Berry is staggering. While the Preserve is mostly deep woods with nice wide hiking trails there is one section were it opens up into a large sunny clearing. I mean about a half acre. And what do you think is 90% of that clearing? Yes, its all Porcelian Berry. That was all here before I moved into my house and the Porcelian Berry has always sprouted in any disturbed ground around the yard and the neighborhood. So I have no guilt over planting my less vigorious Varigated Porcelian Berry in my yard. As far as cutting down the Japanese Honeysuckle that grows around some of the shrubs in the park, anyone trying to cut them would have the police called on them for defacing public property. I have never seen berries on them, just flowers but who knows. I didn't even know what to do with my mistakenly bought invasive Adult English Ivey until I found a nice grove of it climing trees in the very same park accross the street. It seems to be in that area, on those trees but not elsewhere. So I planted my little shrub.

I believe it's the red Aronia I have (which I also think the Latin name has been changed). I bought it because I read that they eat the red one and not the black. Mine has yet to bloom, just bought this spring at a native sale with not much to it, so I can't comment on the fragrance. But I went to another native sale that had the black ones and they smelled heavenly. And of course I went on a day that was for pick-up only. Since it was about a 2 hour drive, no way was I going back the next to buy myself one! I guess I should of worded my initial post differently and added in what berries do you find that your birds don't eat, but you have knowledge that they eat them somewhere else or something to that effect...because as Rita pointed out, there are berries that maybe the birds in my back yard won't eat, but they eat them in somebody else's.