Well, the first one takes about four square feet. After that they spread into a thicket and will take over. I don't really know if they spread by root or just by seed, but they will spread. I have one in my yard that I am managing to keep looking like a tree, at least for now. The main problem with them is that it's hard to get enough berries to do anything with unless you have a thicket. Finding a wild stand is the best thing.

With enough hunting, I found it. It’s Bedrosians Textuality if anyone else is wondering.

whats there now.. how about pix.. whats your soil type.. drainage.. whats your zone.. does your ground freeze .. why did you leave out all the plant forums.. are you interesting in conifers.. shrubs.. trees... perennials.. annuals.. etc ...

Yes, low and slow. This might be helpful. Definitely a matter of preference. Mine is chuck due to flavor. Neither is definitively "better"; the best choice depends on your preference for fat content and tenderness. Chuck roast is fattier and more flavorful, making it very juicy when cooked low and slow, while arm roast is leaner and more tender due to less connective tissue, though it can be prone to drying out if not cooked carefully. Both are great for slow-cooking methods like pot roast or using a slow cooker. Arm roast Tenderness: Generally more tender because it has less connective tissue. Fat content: Leaner with less marbling than chuck roast. Best for: Recipes where you want a leaner meat, like stews, pot roasts, or shredded beef, as it's best when cooked with moist heat. Chuck roast Tenderness: Can be tougher due to a higher amount of connective tissue that needs to break down, but becomes fall-apart tender when cooked low and slow. Fat content: Higher in fat and marbling, which contributes to a richer, beefier flavor. Best for: Slow-cooking, like pot roasts, where the high fat content melts and infuses the meat with flavor, ensuring a juicy result. How to choose Choose arm roast if: You prefer a leaner cut and don't mind a slightly less intensely beefy flavor. It is also often a more budget-friendly option. Choose chuck roast if: You want a rich, juicy, and flavorful result and are cooking using a method that will break down the connective tissue, such as a slow cooker or pot roast.