Are You ready for fall crop now? I started this thread around mid July, a bit too early but now is a good time, I believe, to get it in full swing. I have some chards, chinese cabbage, kohlrabi in flats, kept in partial sun(getting a bit leggy). My garlics, mustard greens and aurugula are up and going. I will plant some more. I just sowed some onions, chives, fenugreek, lettuce, cilantro and parsley. Today I am going to transplant the chinese cabbage, chards and kohlrabies in the garden. I will also sow chinese radishes (big ones) soon. My tomatoes are still going well but cukes are gone. I have few new cukes and tomatoes(from cuttings) for late summer/fall. Last year my late summer cukes produced till first frost. So did the tomatoes. Chines radishes lasted all winter and I had garlic greens all winter as well. But broccolies performance was dismal and gave up on them. Our 15 day weather forcast indicates that day highs are going down to low 80s and high 70s in a week or so, Alreadt the day highs have dropped fro high 90s to high 80s (a 10 deg. drop. So what are you planting or planning to plant? Cyrus

Hey Ill, Wishing you a great 'mater season. It's probably a good idea to plant some quick to mature tomatoes in the fall, since the days are shortening, and it does get cool in December. Here are a few that have done best for me. A great tasting, full size, indeterminate that produces early, and lots of 'em is Jetsetter. Never fails to amaze me. Another quickee with decent size fruit on a determinate plant, that just keeps going and going has been Burbank for me. Excellent in a 7 gallon pot. Nepal (indeterminate) did well in cool weather with slightly smaller fruits growing in clusters, the one year I grew it. I liked them. Early Wonder is a nice determinate with good flavor, but it's not so early. Did seem to have good resistance to RKN though. Sungold is by far the best cherry size tomato I've ever had. It keeps producing through frosts, whitefly, cool, hot, and even spidermites. Always tastes great. Black Cherry is a productive, sweet, large cherry size tomato that comes on early. I was very impressed with the flavor and decent production last year. Black Plum comes on quick and heavy, but I found them kinda bland and mealy. Green Zebra has always been a sturdy plant with lots of zingy fruits. If you want to grow some sweet cherries in a windowbox or as a border plant or in small pots, I highly recommend Red Robin. Nice red balls really load up on plants that don't get more than a foot tall. And they produce over a long period. I have grown Sunleaper and Kewalo in the past. Wasn't impressed with either. They had perhaps less resistance to the pests and problems around here than others. And the flavor wasn't good. IMO. Down here I try to hold off til September to start seeds. I've done it in August, but they grow lanky in the heat and stress out too much. I like to have small thick plants ready to plant by mid to late October. But it hardly ever freezes here either. Looking forward to hearing and seeing pictures of your (everyones) veggies this fall & winter. Treefrog

Depends on if you want to do some protection covering or not. Late fall we get a few cold nights but many warm days in between so it works for me with just a little extra work. And any greens left on the vines come hard freeze time I just pull up the whole plant and hang it upside down in the greenhouse or basement. They go right ahead and ripen. We have had ripe tomatoes on Thanksgiving that way. You lose nothing by trying. ;) Dave

I would imagine the reason you're not getting any fruit on your plants is lack of air movement and insect activity to pollinate the blooms. Plants grown outside normally have enough wind to shake the blooms, or bees and others insects working the blooms to get the pollen distributed. There are a number of articles and videos on the web that talk about using an electric toothbrush to shake the blooms on greenhouse tomatoes. Hopefully, by the time your plants get big enough to bloom, the temps will cool off as high heat and humidity can also kill off pollen.