runktrun, how big is yours? Dimensions would be helpful. And how long has it been there? I'm having a little trouble believing that they will become monsters, because they've been there for a year and a half and have hardly grown at all! Also, I don't think yours looks that bad...it may not be what you had in mind, but I wouldn't call it an "elephant." :) The spacing on my picture might be a little deceiving. I allowed a comfortable 4' of width for it (the depth of the foundation bed). Think it will exceed this quickly? I'm up for moving them while they're small if absolutely necessary.

Milehighgirl, thanks for the links. I should have said, but ee planted a small orchard thi spring. We did so will all of our trees purchased from stark bros. nursery. We planted: Apples: stark golden delicious, stark grand gala, red Fuji, goldfish, enterprise, empire, and candycrisp. Cherries: northstar and stark surecrop Peach: intrepid and reliance Plum: bubblegum and starking delicious plum Pear: orient, moonglow, and starking delicious pear I hope we chose ok! Were certainly novices and my father in law has had good luck with his trees purchased from Stark. I'll be asking for pruning help this spring for sure!

I am aware of that and that is the reason they are going to be up against the deck. If they survive, they survive. If not, oh well. I have a few evergreens that survive here. I get a few mico-climates in this big yard. :) Ginny

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