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19 years ago

I have some new photos from my 2 acre lot of plants that I am identifying. Last fall I had lots of help on some of the field wildflowers and shrubs on this site, these are some spring pics. from the wooded/wetland area. I know the red one is a trillium, can the species be id'd? Anyway.. there are 5 pics. so far. One I think is a tree seedling, if that helps (#4).

Here is a link that might be useful: photo album

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Ron_W
19 years ago
1. Trillium erectum
2. Anemone sp.
3. Maianthemum sp.
4. ?
5. Smilacina racemosa
knottyceltic
19 years ago
I'm no expert by ANY means so people can correct me if I'm wrong but here's what I see in your pictures:

1. Red Trillium (trillium erectum)

2. Looks like Virginia creeper but those flowers...they aren't as far as I know. Are they separate plants? Or are those flowers attached to the vine? In Virginia creeper the flowers look like this:
http://rnrstreamer.lsu.edu/ecosystems/webtour/species/virginiacreeper/images/PARqu61a_web.jpg

3. ?

4. This looks like some sort of "beech". The serrated edges and deeply grooved veins are very beech-like. I think you are right in thinking it's a sapling. And if it's a beech you are fortunate to have it. Take a look around and see if you have any beech trees in the vicinity. The American beech has relatively smooth, silvery grey bark an the branches tend to swoop downward rather than up toward the sky as most trees do.

5. This is either Solomon's Seal
http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/solomon-new.jpg
or False Solomon's Seal
http://ncnatural.com/wildflwr/falsesol.jpg
The stem of Solomon's seal is quite straight while the stem of False Solomon's seal grows in a bit of a zigzag. Also the flowers on Solomon's Seal are all along the underside of the stem usually in pairs while the flowers for False solomon's seal are at the tip of the stem.

Barb
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lycopus
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knottyceltic
19 years ago
For #4 American Elm is also deeply veined and has serrated edges.
Photo for comparison:
http://bio.bd.psu.edu/plant_web/Ulmaceae/American_Elm_Leaf_medium.jpg

It looks very close at any rate.

Keep a little log book or file on your computer of what you find and if you can't identify it, note the features and add a photo if you can until you are able to identify it. It's really quite fun.

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kevin_5
19 years ago
#4 is Viburnum dentatum or one of its close relatives like V. rafinesquianum or V. recognitum.
kwoods
19 years ago
1. stinking benjamin, wake robin
2. Anemone of some kind
3. cow parsnip
4. no clue
5. false solomon seal (or solomon's plume which I like better, that way it's not "false")
clarenancy
19 years ago
I'm no expert, but the leaf on number 4 looks an awful lot like my viburnum dentatum.

See here for a picture.

http://www.doddnatives.com/viburnumdentatum2.html

Clarenancy
brenda_near_eno
19 years ago
3 and 5 are false Solomon's Seal. 4 is a baby ash, I think. 1 is trillium and 2 is Virginia creeper.
knottyceltic
19 years ago
Kevin and clarenancy... good call on the viburnum dentatum... just did an image search and your guess looks much better than the three I suggested. Here are some good pics:

http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/dcs420/b/hdw06069948s.jpg

http://botany.cs.tamu.edu/FLORA/dcs420/b/hdw06069945s.jpg

http://www.salisbury.edu/arboretum/Viburnum/ViDe/photos/ViDeFR02.JPG

Nicely done! :o)

Barb
cstaas
Original Author
19 years ago
Thanks for the help everyone, once again this forum is a blessing! For anyone interested in the overall site that the plants are on, I added 6 more pics. to the end of the album. Shows the stream, wetlands, boggy area, treeline, field, etc. Thanks for looking. Any comments about the property in general, or suggestions, are also welcomed.

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