Yes, certainly an Ironweed. Can't tell which one from the picture, though. They're nice native late summer wildflowers. WW

Wow, that was fast. You are good. Thats the plant. I'll go read about it now. Took all of 30 seconds to identify and I've been prolonging asking for two weeks now. Thank you very much for the help and have a nice evening.

Both are Echeveria. Neither is monocarpic. The first looks similar to the hybrid 'Truffles'. Better pics would help ID.

chazparas, I'll throw in an extra .00001% I am positive now this is an Aster. I would of never put this together myself, I have always thought that every Aster had a daisy like flower Another sort through my seed packets and I have planted Aster azureus, Aster shortii and Plains Aster (which is an annual) So now its just waiting until next year to see what happens and it is entirely possible that I have planted New York Aster which this most closely resembles but I haven't found the seed packet. I don't know how I got mixed up with the tall and short of the plants but what has happened is I got an ID 2 for 1. Over the past year I have tried to photograph and identify every plant that has bloomed in my yard, be it a native, a weed, pretty ugly whatever, I have also tried to figure out how and why it has arrived in my yard. If I have another question I know where to come and I am sure I will get another lesson, so thank you to everyone for your help. When I get everything online I will share.