Here is some information based on my personal experiences with growing different types of Pipevine from seed and otherwise: Fimbriata grows well from seed and germinates fairly quickly. If you are in Texas, that would be first choice for ease of germination and growth. I got my seed from someone on one of the forums last year. You could do a search for "Fimbriata seeds" and find out who had them. I am getting little "pipes" on my plants. If they get pollinated, I should have some seed this fall. Since I live in Oklahoma, the Fimbriata is not hardy here and I'll have to give it winter protection, or start again from seed. I also planted Serpentaria seed last fall and it germinated. It takes a long time for the plants to get any size; whereas the Fimbriata grew rather quickly. Rod Angeroth offered the seed on our forum last fall, so watch for his posting. The Serpentaria plants have been the first choice of the Pipevines in my yard. Second choice has been Tomentosa. As soon as I find the caterpillars on the Serpentaria, I move them over to the Tomentosa to conserve the Serpentaria plants for egg laying. I have a seed pod on my Tomentosa but it hasn't matured yet. I'll see what happens when I plant the seeds as to whether it germinates easily. I may have some extra seeds to spare. Since this is my first time to have a pod mature, I don't know what to expect. My Tomentosa plants were either purchased or collected from outside my neighborhood where it grows wild. It is very hard to get the cuttings to root. I've had minimal success doing this. Clematitis takes a long time to germinate. After 6 months, 2 of my dozen seeds germinated. Those 2 plants have taken off. I have purchased 6 more plants from a native plant vendor, and Susan gave me a start. So far the Clematitis has been ignored in my garden. But, I think that it will be discovered as it spreads. I have Macrophylla also, but that has been my slowest grower, and it hasn't had any attention from the Pipevines. I didn't start it from seed, but purchased the plant from a native nursery in our state. Sandy

Thx Dena I really dont have enough to feed them anyway I have a ton of Frimbrata now but not sure how goldrims do on them.I have seen a pipevine swallow tail 3 days in a row on my butterfly bush she flys around my pipevine and doesnt lay 1 egg Its raining today so havent seen her but maybe shell be back tomorrow.Iv had really bad luck with my butterfly release this year over 100 monarchs ,25 painted ladys,50 black swallowtails ,50 red admirials and I never saw another after I released them havent got any eggs from none of them and no sigh of the GF this year kinda a bad year for me here.

I have seeds. Kat from Amlo Farms sent me a slew of them. I tried germinating them this spring, and failed. I'm going to be trying again next year. I assume it will be an annual here. She's in Austin, TX.

Thanks Rosemarie. I'd been living in the house for 2 years before I found it, and was working on the passionfruit vine and found it entwined in the vine. This year it is all over town - so must like the current conditions - some rain, but not a lot.