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Piper nigrum

12 years ago

I was finally able to get five Piper nigrum seeds germinated in early Feb. Three had red stems, two green, leaves ere similar but a little different. They are all potted in the greenhouse. The three red stemmed ones are loaded with peppercorms but every thing I read on the subject states that it takes 3-4 years for them to produce. What is happening?

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karyn1
12 years ago
Do you have a pic? Are you sure that you have Piper nigrum and not Malabar spinach?
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bgp_123
Original Author
12 years ago
No, they are not malibar spinach. I have that in the garden. I will attempt to send a picture.( When my wife has time)
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I checked my records but unfortunately I was a bit slack with this one. My guess is about 4 years old. Bought it as a small plant and then left it in its pot at the base of a tree. Ended up forgetting about it until it started to spread out across the ground and up into the tree. Used the stem on the ground as a cutting for a new plant. They do grow easily from cuttings. The pot was sitting on a brick but the roots still went down into the ground. Got 3 plants now, really like the look of them so it doesn't matter about the fruiting.
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bgp_123
Original Author
12 years ago
This is a picture of the piper nigrum I mentioned earlier.
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karyn1
12 years ago
That is Malabar spinach, not Piper nigrum.

Here is a link that might be useful: Piper nigrum images
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karyn1
12 years ago
I should have added that you can use the Malabar berries in salads and other dishes. They have a bit of a peppery flavor. Be careful when you pick them as they will stain your fingers purple. Many people enjoy the foliage and young stems. The flavor is ok but I can't stand the texture. It's mucilaginous, like okra.
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bgp_123
Original Author
12 years ago
karyn1,
Thank you, you are right, it is Malibar spinach. Due to our drought and so many days over 100, the M. spinach in the garden does not resemble this one, plus the garden ones have never produced fruit.I agree with you on the texture but I love okra, especially boiled. Go figure.Again thanks for the info although I am devastated that I no longer haver Piper nigrum. Guess I need to stop re-using my germinating medium!
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karyn1
12 years ago
I always reuse my potting mix and this year I have passion vines coming up in everything. You see an empty pot sitting around for months and figure there's nothing in it.....wrong. lol I know loads of folks that like okra. I'm just not one of them. The slimy texture gets me every time.

Piper nigrum is pretty easy to root. I don't have any now but you might want to post on the exchange and see if anyone can send you some.
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