Wild Raspberries

16 years ago

I recently moved near Murfreesboro from GA and have found some wild raspberry plants with new canes. Does anyone know if these wild ones normally produce any and decent fruit to make it worthwhile transplanting to my garden?

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pineviewplanter
16 years ago
I temporarily planted some in my cottage garden, with the intent of putting into a permanent bed. Well, I did transplant them. But, they do not produce enough fruit to be worth the trouble. No matter what I did, not much fruit. I got canes canes canes and more canes and healthy too. But not much fruit. And the horrible thing is.... now I got canes coming up alllllll oooooooooover my cottage garden and cannot get rid of them all. Worse than Johnson Grass they are.

Go and buy good healthy domestic canes. Those produce fruit.

PVP
anntn6b
16 years ago
I let a wild seedling come up and waited a year to test its potential. It is a great plant and was very productive this spring...and that after the Easter freeze that killed so many brambles of the cultivated variety.
So my foundling will go into the garden with the tip rooted babies its making.
But the move will happen in fall, not in this heat and drought.
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"don't have the option of keeping domestics far away " I would try anyway! Plants are fairly cheap. At Indiana Berry they cost about $3.50 each. Oh you're in Canada. Nevermind! My family still says the wild raspberry jam I made this year (I used a mixture of reds and blacks) was the best jam I ever made. So even though in the city I grow domestics, i still forage the wilds, blackberries too, but they are not as good. The wild raspberries taste nothing like domestics.The wild mulberries I forage are to die for too. Thye are my favorite. Not that good just eating, OK, but in jam or syrup, wow!
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Peg, none of the red ones are wild, only the black types are native to the US. They may have "gone wild" in places. If you buy some "Bristol" blacks from a nursery they are a cross of two wild ones. In general the nursery varieties of blacks are in my opinion very similar to the wild ones I have tried, only with bigger berries. So, I don't see much reason to get the wild ones. You also will have a shorter-lived planting since you may get some virus at the start. For the reds there were never any wild ones, just older varieties imported from Europe. I think the modern ones taste better than the older ones, at least based on the ones I tried, so I don't see a big reason to get any "wild reds" either. Scott
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Thanks Chris- I really shouldn't chuckle because it is better to be safe than sorry. When I moved down to the prairie here and we had all this buckthorn on our property I thought it was the beloved chokecherries that we had always made jelly from on the farm back home. I popped one in my mouth and had to spit for 10 minutes to get it off my tongue- now I read that they can cause severe gastric upset. Berry picking in the woods from blueberries, strawberries, blackberries, highbush cranberries, chokecherries etc. is a fond memory of my childhood...I'll never forget the glass quart jar full of water that we all drank from and my brother and sisters all yelling at me for picking and eating more than I put in my pail.
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Burning could be your problem. Raspberries and blackberries set fruit on year old wood. A green stem grows the first year, and blossoms form on it the following year. After fruiting, the stem may die. Wild berries are left to their own devices and are never pruned. Examine a wild backberry clump during its flowering season. Tou'll find the viable stem with flowers, and the beginnings of new stems low to the ground plus dead stems. There won't be as many dead stems as one might think since many of these have already broken down. What I suggest you do if you want to tidy up. Remove the dead stems after fruiting and pile for burning. Let the rest alone. Don't remove apparently 'dead' stems in the winter; Its hard to tell dead wood from dormant wood. The dormant wood will green up in spring and become the fruit bearing stems. Both blackberries and raspberries require full sun most of the day. Hike a pasture infested with wild blackberries and note where they do do best. Duplicate these conditions in your cultivated garden. You'll find berries growing along small creeks and drainways, and some distance away from the margins of forested plots. Imagine the shadow line of the trees and take note how deeply inside this shaded perimenter the wild stems grow. This tells you the sun requirements. I have seen blackberries growing with small shrubs and scrub brush, but never within the full shade of a forest. Blackberries will tend toward low ground where there is more moisture during the heat of summer. A wild raspberry clump spreads by forming new plantlets. After the berries have matured, a number of green stems rapidly increase in length and bends to touch their tips to the ground. Left undisturbed, these stems will form new roots at these points of contact and a new cloned plant will start. After a few season of this, the clump will have increased in diamenter into an impenetratable mass filled with old stem loops fastened at both ends to the ground - a home a rabbit could love.
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brandon7 TN_zone7
16 years ago
Wild Raspberries are highly likely to have viruses. I would recommend eliminating all wild brambles within 600 feet or more of the garden site and planting certified, disease-free, virus-indexed new stock.
kiwinut
16 years ago
The wild raspberries you found are almost certainly wineberries, an invasive asian raspberry. They do produce small, good flavored fruits, but I would never want them in my garden.
anntn6b
16 years ago
I do know what the invasives look like and the difference between those and the natives.
And re bramble viruses...I go by my copy of the Horst Compendium to be on the lookout for symptoms. And these are seed grown and the only harvested brambles for at least half a mile.
myrtleoak
16 years ago
I have never seen wild raspberries in east TN, though I have seen several sources refer to the native blackberries as "black raspberries". I have also observed dewberries on the Cumberland Plateau, but never a mature red berry. Are the above mentioned raspberries red and, if so, are they a native variety or the exotic variety mentioned by kiwinut?
kiwinut
16 years ago
Black raspberries, Rubus occidentalis, is the only native raspberry in middle Tennessee. The american red raspberry is native to Tennessee, but only from high elevations (>4,000 ft) in the Unaka Mountains. Any red raspberries found "wild" in middle TN are almost certainly escaped from culitvation. The wineberries have a very distinctive red hairiness.

Here is a link that might be useful: Wineberry Pics

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