I don't have the Brandywine Cowlick, just the BW Sudduth, but I've been wanting some Goose Creek seeds for a while. Will you see if there's anything else on my list that you might like to trade for a few?

That's Michael Johnson in the UK and his seed source was what? As I said, GC seeds are out there in both red and pink versions but the first ones that I and several others knew were pink, as described by Jimmy Williams himself. And that was way before Laurel got the seeds for GC and started seeling plants and I don't know through whose hands the seeds went before she started selling plants. Jimmy Williams tried to patent GC and the patent application is online and makes for interesting reading. But no patent was given, for several reasons I'm sure. Well, I might as well tell you the rest of the story here. I was contacted by a fact checker from a magazine that was doing an article on Jimmy Williams and wanted my opinion of the claims he made for the variety. And that's when I first started looking into it really seriously b'c at the time that Jimmy said the seeds came from the Caribbean there were no smooth looking tomatoes anywhere and that didn't happen until maybe 70 years later when the first smooth, not bumpy lumpy ones of previous years existed. I checked with my friend Andy Smith who wrote the best book on the History of the Tomato that I know of and he agreed with me. I have no idea if that article ran or not. Carolyn

I am growing Goose Creek that I got from Laurel, and other than the depredations of Hornworms and Deer, the plants seem fine. I do notice that they haven't set much fruit since it got hot in the 80s, whereas many other matos have. strange for a supposed South Carolina variety. set a lot of fruit shortly after planting, however. Michael in Hampstead, NC.. in the swamp - 98 today!!!

Cleo, If is it not a mixup (no cherry seeds in the house) and not a cross (no cherries grown within a quarter mile when seeds were saved) then you may have a mutation. I say may because when I look closely at both pictures, I see a similarity between the trusses. Both of them have alternating fruit/blossom stems and then a section where they are only on one side of the stem like some may not have grown or matured. It looks like the top one has places were 5 or 6 fruit or blossoms and the bottom one has 8 but the contrasty shadows on the first one make seeing it a bit difficult. I have actually seen what was listed as a picture of a Goose Creek that had a lot of blossoms, perhaps as many as 8, on a single truss. I can't seem to find that photo right now, but check out the third photo in the thread linked below. Which was a question about the real goosecreek tomato: Some places it is listed as red and small and others as large and pink. Even Jimmy Williams' (who attempted to patent it) description of it seemed to change over time. I have seeds from two different sources, one was listed as a red slicer and the other as a pink beefsteak. I had planned to comparison grow them this year, but had way too many I had not already grown or that I needed to save fresh seeds on. Since I was limiting my growouts to 75 varieties this year (which actually turned out to be closer to 85) GC was one that went on the back burner. The upshot of the deal is, I think your bottom pic may just be smaller goosecreeks that will get to be the size of the top one. But if that doesn't happen, I am sure that there will be lots of people willing to try your "Goosecreek Cherry," myself included! BTW, I have seen some tiny seeds from big fruits, and vice versa. Keep us posted, I am sure many of us are very curious now. Betsy Here is a link that might be useful: Question re Goose Creek tomato