need source for buying netting to sling melons
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help with building cages for melons and squash
Comments (11)Regarding did I try to post this on the container gardening subforum; yes I did, but it's been completely ignored. As far as what size containers will my melons be grown in; I basically plan to grow one melon plant per 5 gallon container. Somebody else who does container gardening, says they do this, and have had success with it. There are my parts of gardening I enjoy, but I'm NOT a do-it-yourself type person; it's not something I'm good with, that's why I'm asking for help with how to build these containers. Trying to construct them by myself, I basically have no idea what I'm doing. However I did have one question regarding melons. Supposedly they grow better if grown in groups rather then by themselves. So I'm wondering if it would be better to grow them in groups of 3 in the 5 gallon container, or would this end up doing more harm than good? Not to be rude, but I don't know how big to make my cages (with the length, width, and height). That's one of the questions I asked, and didn't really get an answer to.Yes I know that I didn't provide the dimensions for the vining types of melons that aren't bush types. However it's because I can't find that information; I can't provide to you information I don't have. From my experience with vines you really don't need to train them I think. If you provide them something to climb on, won't they just latch onto it? I've tried to ask the seed catalog companies who provide the seeds, what the dimensions of the plants are for the melons, the honeydew (Honey Pearl) and cantaloupe (Tasty Bites). They said they don't want to mislead customers, because how big it gets is subjective; it depends on so many factors......how good the soil is, how warm it is, how well fertilized the plant is, etc. Somebody said with traditional vining types, the vines can get very long. What determines how big I need to make the cage? Is it the length of the vines, or the height of the plant itself, or is it a combination of both of these factors? That is to say if the vine length of a melon plant will reach 15', then should I make the cage 15' high? This is just hypothetical. How big would I need to ask them to cut it to size? I really suck with math, and I don't know what the dimensions of the plants I'm growing will be. Typically how large with the height, width, and vine length do honeydew and cantaloupe melons get? I'm asking because I cannot find this information via the internet. I don't know how big the vines will get. However I do know with container gardening, that plants are typically smaller, and whatever you harvest will be slightly smaller; it's just the nature of container gardening. So hypothetically, even if the melon plants are well fertilized, grown in good soil, well watered, etc.....are the vines of the plant just going to be smaller due to the fact that plant is grown in a container? By the vines and plant being smaller, I mean they'll be smaller in general in comparison to if they were grown via the 'conventional method' that is to say, in a plot in the ground in hills....See MoreI need a source of garden netting
Comments (3)I have seen garden netting at Lowes in past seasons. Haven't looked for any there this year so I'm not certain they still carry it. You could call the nearest Lowes and ask. If you cover the squash vines, you will need to hand pollinate. This is best done early in the mornings soon after the blossoms open. It's not hard to do, especially if you don't have a large number of plants....See MoreNeed some advice on my mystery melon.
Comments (5)Yes, Sandy, you might as well pull off or clip the little melons that are forming now, since they will not make it to maturity. Five or more melons, even small ones, from one plant is pretty darn good. At this time of year, I clip off all the small cantaloupes and watermelons I see, and begin to head back the vines as they spread out beyond their assigned space to the lawn. But I don't go quite so far as to pinch blossoms, as there are quite a few of them, many of them male. If they set melons, you might pinch them off, although whether it will make a difference to the larger melons on your vines I really can't say. If your little melons are beginning to show netting, you are about ten days from ripe melons. When they are fully netted and a nice straw color, test the stems to see if they pull off easily. You don't want to pick them prematurely, but you don't want them overripe on the vines either. Don Yellman, Great Falls, VA...See MoreMelon Slings & Protection from Varmits
Comments (21)Pam, Ever since the year I was visited at/near the fenced garden by 2 different cougars (the second one was smaller than the first, so obviously wasn't the same one) about six weeks apart, I have tried to remember every morning to take a gun out to the garden with me. I haven't seen a cougar on our near our property since then, but neighbors have spotted them on their property and on ours, so even thoug it is an uncommon occurrence, the fact that it occurred at all has made me much more cautious. Those two occurrences were not my first encounters with cougars, but they were the first ones that were so close, and certainly the first time they were in our yard while a human was out there. The majority of our wildlife issues come from venomous snakes, coons (which prey upon chickens like mad), skunks, bobcats and coyotes. We see lots of other wildlife, but they generally steer clear of us. The foxes, for example, seem shy and not especially happy to be seen so they'll run away when they see us. We hear feral pigs more than we see them, though we have had them on our property occasionally. We live in a bend of the Red River near the TX border with Texas to our west, south and east. There is a lot of wild, river bottom land, on those three sides of us and some of the bottom land is Wildlife Management Area, so there is a huge amount of wildlife here. I expected wildlife before we moved here. What we got is wildlife, wildlife, wildlife, wildlife, wildlife. For example, I knew ringtail cats existed but never had seen them in the wild until we moved here. I don't see them often, and when I do, I'm not happy to see them because they're generally trying to get into the chicken run or chicken coop, but I'm still always just amazed to see them. Last year, we got almost 79" of rain and had repeatedly flooding over and over again. The Red River even swept away a few homes that had been near it for over 50 years and never had been flooded before. The river bottom lands were flooded for months. Consequently, the wildlife was driven to higher ground.....and guess where we live? On the higher ground they were seeking. We had so many snakes, and so many huge ones much larger than what we normally see, especially broad-banded copperheads (so I am guessing they really stay in the bottom lands most of the time). I am hoping for a more normal year this year, but doubt we will get it. We had snakes out in January and February, which is incredibly rare, because we just weren't cold enough. I've already had enough snake encounters this year to make me a nervous wreck. Living here would be just about perfect if we didn't have all the venomous snakes. Being visited by a skunk, a possum and a stray dog in broad daylight all within a few hours, was disconcerting to say the least. Days like that are why I am exceptionally careful to close and latch the garden gate behind me. I don't want to be trapped in a garden with an 8' tall fence and with wildlife that might be dangerous. It also is the reason our two separate fenced gardens have two gates each---a main gate that gets used daily and a back gate on the opposite side of the garden in case something comes in the main gate and a person needs to escape quickly from the garden to avoid it. Normally, we assume all skunks out in broad daylight are rabid and shoot them, but if I had shot that one, the garden and I would have smelled strongly of skunk for days. I don't like shooting one so close to the house if we can just follow it 50 or 100 yards and shoot it. I hate to shoot possums, so was relieved when this one ran off. Possums are predators of venomous snakes, so I try to just leave them alone when they are out. It had been a rainy night for two consecutive nights, so I felt like maybe they were hunting for food because of those two rainy nights/days. Stray dogs are, sadly, a dime a dozen here as people commonly dump them in the country all the time. Most stray dogs form packs and begin preying upon foals, calves, kids, etc. and then the ranchers shoot them. Everyone who lives around us has taken in more dogs than they need or want, but we all could have 100 times the number we do have because so many sorry excuses for human beings dump them all the time. The same is true of feral cats, but feral cats prey more upon wildlife than farm and ranch animals, so people have more toleration for them and generally either ignore them or trap them and try to tame them at least enough to turn them into semi-feral barn cats. One surprising benefit of bird netting, by the way, is that apparently snakes cannot see it well or they think they can squeeze through it. We've caught quite a few copperheads that way, though not on purpose. I'd rather the copperhead get hung up in the bird netting before it can bite a person. Last year, as our adult son was bending over to open one of the barn's roll-up doors, a copperhead struck at him, but it got entangled in a piece of bird netting I had left drying on the pavement there, so the snake couldn't reach him, thank goodness. So, while I've never put up bird netting on purpose to catch snakes or to keep them out of certain places, it is a sort of beneficial side effect of using the netting. We wanted to live surrounded by nature. It is one of the reasons we moved to the country. It still is one of the things we love most about living here, but all wildlife is not created equal. I can sit and watch cottontails hop around in the yard or pastures endlessly. Coyotes? Not so much. Dawn...See Moreengineeredgarden
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