Building Raised Beds Cedar or PT Wood? How Thick?
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Comments (49)"The new modern treated lumber still comes with warnings that say do not use regular nails/screws because they will quickly dissolve" The immediate fall back to ignorance and fear in this forum is astounding. Rather than learning something, people just start screaming that the sky is falling. The reason that PT wood corrodes standard steel nails/screws is it has large amounts of copper in it. The copper-to-steel contact causes small galvanic currents to happen, and this speeds corrosion. Its the same process as why you don't mix galvanized and stainless fittings, or aluminum and steel fittings. Two unlike metals touching each other will always set up small currents and corrode when they get wet. That doesn't mean its dangerous. This doesn't mean its going to make you sick. The same goes with the guy above posting that brick dust is carcinogenic, so hes not using brick. Brick dust is only carcinigenic if you breath in large quantities of it over a long time (IE, if you're a mason, or work in brickyard). It's not going to be dangerous at all in a bed. (Silica is sand. If Bricks cause cancer in soil, so does sand)...See MoreRaised Bed Wood - Cedar, Treated?
Comments (12)Its true about the new quimical used in treated wood to be safe. As the matter of fact, it is not new. It is fairly new compare to other products but this new quimical has been used around 10-15 years. I actually did a light research on the local companies that supply HD treated wood, and they claim is totally safe. The guy at HD said that most of the people buy the treated wood for garden beds. So that is why i decided to go with treated wood, cheap, safe and easy to built. it cost me about $42 bucks for six 2x6 that i used to built two 8x4 beds. As a safety, even if i know treated wood it is really safe, i will put plastic cover in the inside walls of the beds, so that the soil mix has no or very minimal contact with the quimical. So i guess my $42 was well spent compared to some of you's pricing. As far as the soil mix, i cannot find the vermiculite. If i have to, i will ignore it and either use perlite as replacement, or even go with straight compost or a combination of compost and peat moss....See MoreNeed as much help with wood help and building raised beds ASAP
Comments (8)"My largest bed is 4' x 25' x 14" deep, and is made with rough cut cedar that a friend with a small sawmill operation cut for me. This is the cheapest source that I know of, and you might be able to find a similar deal in your area. I would expect the boards to last at least 15-20 years, and no additional protective coating is necessary. Mine are supported by 4x4 posts cemented 18" deep in the ground, but I tend to really beef things up that are built on the property. Hope this helps. EG " EG, Where does one find such a sawmill? I also forgot to mention the tools I have on hand and my situation. I'm currently unemployed and funds are very tight. The veggie garden is my freedom for healthy foods and saving traveling costs AND I CONTROL IT so I know that there are NO PESTICIDES. Sorry for the caps there. On a ventage over that. I only have a cored circular saw (old, likely dull, spot rust, and can't find it right now), corded Borsh (sp?) hand drill, 12v Mikita cordless drill (both batteries dead, would wiring it to a 12v car battery straight make it work?), cheap hand rotary tool w/~100pc kit, corded jig saw, small hobby belt/disc sander (belt ~1" wide and disc ~5" diameter), large range of socket set heads, large set of hand tools +/-/[]. I have access to Lowes (not far from me), Home Depot (not far from me), and Rona (not far from me)....See Morepine vs cedar for raised bed
Comments (14)Cedar Wood Vs.Pressure Treated Pine Aromatic Red Cedar: Cedar is a very stable wood. It does not warp, or shrink, or check (as pressure treated pine most likely will do eventually). A product using cedar boards will have a much nicer appearance, after 10 years compared to a pressure treated pine. Our cedar usually comes from Missouri, Oklahoma, Ohio, Kentucky, and Indiana. It can be 50-80 years old. Cedar lumber costs a little more than the fast grown southern yellow pine, but it is well worth the extra expense. Cedar could last 30 years or more and will stay straight! Pressure Treated Pine: This type of lumber usually originates from the southeastern U.S., and can be a southern yellow pine species or a mixed pine species. It is a fast growing tree; being one of the few types that can be pressure treated. Other types of wood have a different cell structure and will not accept the treatment process. This pine, after it has been cut to size, is kiln dried to remove most of the moisture. Then it is bundled up and put into huge cylindrical tanks. Next, a water based solution of micronized copper azole is forced into the wood fibers under pressure. This process makes the wood very heavy and gives it a dark green appearance. This pressure treated pine (PT pine) is guaranteed by the manufacturer not to decay or have insect damage for 10 years or more. It is not guaranteed against shrinkage, warping, checking (splitting). We do not guarantee that this will not happen because it often does. When PT pine starts drying out it can develop "checks" which look like splits or cracks in the posts or boards. This is not an uncommon complaint from new owners of wood products. Actually, the wood is slightly shrinking, a natural seasoning (drying out) of any piece of lumber. When a fence post dries, the outer surface (sapwood) shrinks faster than the inner heart of the piece, and something has to give. For this reason, posts have a natural tendency to develop a V-shaped check towards the center. The result is the familiar "check" which is technically neither a split nor a crack. Depending on the weather and season your wood fence is installed, checking may occur right away, or might wait for warmer weather. We usually never use PT pine for the posts because they will decay in the ground must faster than a cedar post would. Because of this we only use cedar posts for fencing. Here is a link that might be useful: cedar...See MoreRelated Professionals
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