Hi Megan, You might find Amy Padgett's website on her roses useful there (link attached). She lives in Eastern NC, zone 8, and you might well have good experiences in Eastern SC with some of the same roses she likes in her no-spray yard. Specifically, she highly recommends both Souvenir de la Malmaison and Old Blush as favorite roses that are especially easy to grow and good for beginners. Not that you're a beginner, but that ought to be yet another clue that a rose will do well without a lot of fussing over it and spraying. Your list has so many roses that I either have or want that perhaps some that I happen to like might also appeal to you: General Gallieni. Needs room. Lovely fragrance to the attractive red blooms with lighter reverse sides. Can take a bit of shade, like many other teas. Grows horizontally like a rambler the first year, but then grows upwards. Evergreen. General Schablikine. Lovely blooms on an attractive plant that doesn't get as large as many teas do. Blooms that are good for cutting start early and continue into the early winter. Evergreen. Moonlight, the hybrid musk. Nice flowers, good for cutting, flexible stems. It held onto its leaves all winter, in a colder than average winter, and is doing great/blooming now. Very shade tolerant. It was evergreen here in zone 7. Ghislaine de Feligonde. If you have the space for it, this is a worry-free rose that's also shade tolerant. I especially like the looks of its foliage; it reminds me slightly of fern foliage. Our new one (planted last fall) hasn't quite opened its buds yet but it's absolutely covered in buds. Very bushy, but also can be used as a short climber. Evergreen. Crepuscle. We just got this one but everything I can find out about it for NC/SC (and plenty of other warm areas besides) is very positive for use as a short climber for a no-spray yard. Some shade tolerance. Amazone. We just got this one too. It was found in Bermuda, where there is plenty of humidity, so it should do well in NC/SC. If you read Help Me Find on this one, and you'll want to order it. It's pretty vigorous here thus far. Some shade tolerance. Spice. Also found in Bermuda, and new here too. Lion's Fairy Tale. We are taking a chance on this one for no-spray. It's new this spring, but once it came it bowled me over with the beauty of its huge blooms; I'm glad to be taking the chance on it. The plant will stay relatively small and can fit nicely into the front of a large planting. Gruss An Aachen. Our three did extremely well even in an amount of direct sunlight that's less than ideal. They love to bloom from early to late in the season, and the blooms are luscious. Others in other areas of the east coast report problems with disease. Ours did get a little powdery mildew a few times but hosing it down a few times worked just fine. No very noticeable blackspot problems. Ours came from Chamblees and I don't know whether their particular cultivar is any different from others, but we were thrilled with those roses (until they got Rose Rosette Disease so we had to toss them). We are going to replace them with more Gruss An Aachens. Good shade tolerance. Not quite evergreen in zone 7. Westside Road Cream Tea. This is a tea rose found in California that grows slowly and doesn't get large. There are lots of uses for small tea roses, so I hope our new plants do well. They came as bands and are still tiny, tiny, tiny at this moment. Rise 'n' Shine. New here. A heavy bloomer that's a good yellow fading to light yellow; the entire effect is quite attractive. Rose Rosette. A tiny pure pink rose that looks perfect in every way. (Imagine a tiny version of your Belinda's Dream.) Good for cutting long-lasting blooms. David Austin's Mortimer Sackler. No-spray here, though we've had to replace them due to RRD. A delicately beautiful pink rose with some fragrance. Can be used as a short climber and it seems a natural for that kind of use; the canes are extremely flexible. Mostly evergreen in zone 7. Red Cascade. We haven't tried this miniature climber/rambler by Ralph Moore, but I'd like to one of these days if I could find a sunny enough place for it. It looks wonderful to me, though I don't know whether anyone in the Carolinas has tried it. Anyway, Antique Rose Emporium sells it. Best wishes, Mary Here is a link that might be useful: Amy Padgett's roses in eastern NC

Jeri, I've got the rust champ, too, so I'll try to compare them, if I can catch them blooming at the same time. Paul- Thank you! That explains why it's in the gallica section, and lack of rebloom would explain why I didn't notice it when I was doing inventory last fall. The database listed a dark gallica there. If Mel planted it in 2003 or 2004, that would explain why it wasn't entered in the database. Some things got missed between curators. Jill

Kes Z I sure hope she keeps growing on the one hand. On the other, I am a bit concerned about her shading the ground too much in that garden, on the north side. I already notice that side seems to wake up slower. Ah, but then, I might just have to expand the whole thing! My DH built it for me, the sweet man. I showed him about 5 different pictures of pergolas in magazines, all covered in roses of course and told him, just as long as it looks kind of like any of these and is strong enough to hold up any vining or climbing thing you decide the materials, etc. - and he did! I do love that spot.

Hi Crenda, I bought 2 pots of miscellaneous succulents at a garden store. Now that they're all IDed, I can say the pots are contain the following species: -Haworthia cuspidata, 'sunrise' Anacampseros, and the Sempervivum in one pot -Aeonium, Aloe aristata, and Haworthia coarctata in the other ive been researching to see how they should be by needs and growing season, but have been having a bit of trouble figuring out what can go together since a lot of sources contradict each other online regarding growing season for a few of them. They would be grown indoors in pots under a grow light to ensure adequate lighting since there really isn't a great place for them to get sun in my townhouse. Is Aeonium the only winter grower? I was thinking maybe putting the 2 Haworthia together with the aloe, having the Aeonium by itself, and putting the sunrise and Sempervivium together. Any suggestions? Thanks! Chris