Anybody have a full bush shot of Earth Song?
jim1961 / Central Pennsylvania / Zone 6
13 years ago
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scorched earth: desperate for design help (w/sad pics)
Comments (27)I don't mean to scare you. When I read your original post, it sounds like you had a vision near the bottom where you itemized 1-4. One and two sound like you had a comfortable direction. The post seemed like you worked together with the landscaper to form a "vision" and then started implementing it. It now sounds like it was much looser than that, so there is a difference and with that difference there is reason to believe that you can have better results. You asked if I am a design professional. I am a registered landscape architect. "However, you scare me a little bit, Laag....as a novice gardener I wouldn't expect that the execution would be immensely difficult. Depressing to think that a lovely plan on paper could be spoiled in the brown-thumb hands of the wrong person." Implementation of landscape plans is actually highly variable. A layout plan of plant placement may not be that way so much, but you have a lot more in the mix than plant placement. You have topographic changes which brings a third dimension that spurs off a number of other issues. Sticking to just the aesthetic parts of those issues, you have the steps, terracing, retaining walls, and how the elevations affect how the plants visually interact (which is very different than if they are in a flat plan). A very good design can be drawn that takes all of this into account. But having that good design does not get you out of the woods just yet. The execution is very dependent on the ability of the person to layout the plan. It is much more difficult to do on varying terrain. That is not really easy for people who do it all of the time and is quite difficult for someone who has never done it. That is an area where a good plan can be horribly compromised in the implementation. Let's say that both the design is good and the layout is done accurately. Now we have the sculpting of the terrain to deal with. This is not easily drawn on a small scale plan with contour lines and very difficult for inexperienced people to convert from lines on a piece of paper to the actual contour of the ground, so a lot may be left up to the person doing the work to try and make it work. Let's say that is done well. Now you have the actual construction of the steps. You may have some well drawn construction details that show you what needs to be done, but a lot of garden designer's are not experienced in drawing up construction details and the added ability, time, and liability would drive the design cost up. But let's say the designer has provided good construction details. You still need the skill set to build them. Some things are fairly simple to do such as forming and pouring concrete. But putting together a stone wall takes more than being able to read a construction detail. It takes real skill. It is true that a not all walls have to be masonry masterpieces, but there is a point where rustic crosses the line to crude. Crude will detract from the intent of the plan. Let's say that the skill set to build the walls and steps are good. Now we can move toward planting. A #5 Nikko Blue Hydrangea might be called for on the plan. If you call three nurseries and have them each ship you one, will they all be the same? I can tell you that it is unlikely that they will be based on my own experience. This means that selection of a nursery can impact the implementation. Let's say you have found a good nursery. Now, plants are living things and they are handled at nurseries. This means there are variations from one plant to another. Someone has to know which plants are the healthiest, the right shape, and otherwise the best choice for this particular job. This does not mean that any other #5 Nikko Blue is not going to work, but it does mean that it adds a quality variation in implementing the plan. Let's say that we are able to do this very well. Our land form is shaped, steps and walls are well laid out and well crafted, and our beautiful plants are on site. Now there is the digging of the holes. Some will make them bigger and some will make them smaller. Some will amend and some won't. Some will amend with xyz and some with abc. Some will bury them 2/3 and then water them in and finish burying them after the water subsides. Others won't water them in at all. So, yes, implementation of a plan can take a great plan and turn it into a lousy landscape. ... or not....See MoreMy Time of Year, (full bush shots)
Comments (23)Thank you Ruth but it has to be dumb luck and maybe just the location. These roses do love our climate. Karenleigh, if you have the room I think you need Peggy. Perle d'Or is about my favorite also. Never a problem in the world. Huttnem, I'm space challenged also. So many roses and so little space. Thank you Mary. My Peggy Martin is planted in the worse location in my garden and still thrives real well. Maybe she loves harsh conditions huh? SeattleSuze, I know very well about the size possibilities of Peggy. I've talked to her on a couple of occasions. She had a pic of one that her brother grew and never pruned, scary to say the least! I think yours will love the beautiful structure you've made. Thanks Florence. The story of Peggy was what made me have to have her although I don't have the space....See MoreGrowth of own root Earth Song?
Comments (104)Jim, don't feel too sorry for me. I really do have way more roses than I need, by my choice! I will admit that in most ways I am practical, but not in that way! In all honesty I thought my teenage grandsons would be able to help me more than they have been able to. They are good helpers, but their Mom and Dad are keeping them busy this summer. One thing that I have observed about your roses and other plantings, is that you don't seem to have more than you are able to manage, and they really are very beautiful and healthy looking. I'll remember that tip about the water and fertilizer....See MoreFull bush shots of my Poseidon
Comments (12)Thank you everyone! Jasmine, mine is grafted on multiflora. Moses, so far it has been very winter hardy. Jo, no problem, I love posting pictures, but wanted to be sure I could get one that the blooms looked okay. Lily, yours looks really good to me. The year I planted mine, I think 2015, mine set on quite a few buds and they just withered, I don’t know what happened, because that was a pretty good year for most of my roses. I think by the end of the season it had two blooms, but ever since then it has done great. Diane, no I don’t, but the humidity hasn’t helped them at all. I hope you have those perfectly gorgeous Love Song blooms soon!...See Morequeenbee_1
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