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Transplanting a Veterans' Honor on Fortuniana Rootstock

12 years ago

As you can see this is a huge plant(Susan is holding this monster)The root on the left is 5 ft. long and the root on the right is 4 ft. long.This is number 22 we have transplanted this year.--Ron

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Krista_5NY
12 years ago
Very interesting pic, showing the whole plant. It looks great, ready to go in its new location.
queenbee_1
12 years ago
wow.. How did you ever get that out of the ground. Beautiful plant.. May I ask why you are moving them? They look so healthy..
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Queenbee-- We started growing roses in the early 80's and put all our roses in large bed even to the ground. As time went by it became almost impossible to keep weeds out of our garden so 3 years ago I came up with a idea to build 3 raised beds out of concrete block 88" wide and 30 ft. long(Each bed holds 26 roses) so this being the last year we just moved the remaining roses into their new home.--Ron
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The rose is obviously almost fully leafed out. Will you prune it back to make up for the root damage?.....I had no idea that fortuniana root stock looked like that. Thanks for informing us....Maryl
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Maryl--It depends on how much wilt comes with it.(It can become quite bad with this rootstock.)--Ron
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12 years ago
Ron, I forgot to ask, how old is the rose?
ron_and_susan
Original Author
12 years ago
Krista--We have had that rose about 10 years.--Ron
seil zone 6b MI
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Well you certainly grow strong, healthy roses!!
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Reminds me of my not-so-wonderful idea to relocate ownroot Darlow's Engima last year...roots everywhere (LONG roots everywhere)!! I ended up cutting a couple just to get it out of the ground and hoped for the best. Looks like its doing ok though, just a little stunted.

Good on your transplants...you're braver than me! :)
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