Moving to Arizona

17 years ago

I will be moving in November. I am taking a few of my smaller plumeria with me. I will also take a cutting of my unnamed white. ItÂs a compact grower that quickly branches at short interval lengths into a rounded leafy mass of tips; itÂs an outstanding producer of inflos and smells so good I canÂt bear to be without it. It is one of the few I canÂt easily replace. Most of my plants are in huge pots and would need to be received by a greenhouse at this time of year. I will give them to friends of mine who share my passion for these plants. It is important to me that they go to good homes.

What is mind blowing to me is how many of my neighbors have approached me and offered to buy my plants. My plumeria have been the sensation of my neighborhood this year. In my present climate, plumeria are easy plants that only require a little fertilizer and a well draining soil. I will type up instructions for my neighbors on how to purchase and root cuttings in order to avoid paying $100 OR MORE FOR A DECENT SIZE PLANT. I kid you not, unless you buy a tiny barely rooted stick from a big box store, this seems to be the going rate here.

Next year, I will be the one posting questions and confused about what to do next. I already have a few questions for those of you in climates just outside the plumeria zone. Where I am moving, there are only a few critical weeks with temperatures that would kill unprotected plants. Of course I am having fantasies about black plastic to warm the soil and pop up greenhouses during these critical weeks to protect plants planted in the ground. Does this sound reasonable, or am I seriously deluded? If I canÂt count on each plant to bloom every year, what is the usual percentage of small permanently potted plants that bloom in a given year?

MusaRojo (who has to learn all over again how to care for plumeria) :-(

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plume
17 years ago
Hi M

I'm visiting Ariz. (Scottsdale) in 2 weeks to visit friends. I have been there on several vacations and the temp. in Scottsdale is similar to the San fernando Valley, in So. Calif. I don't know abt. the temp. in the winter so I can't remark abt. that. BUT why are you so sure you are going to have such a problem with your plumie's in Ariz. to begin with. Maybe you are moving to a place like Flagstaff where it snows. Could that be it!!! I'm curious abt. where you're moving there. If it's Scottsdale I don't think you will have a major problem. If it's Flagstaff probably.

Where do you live in Cal.I'd love to know.

Before you sell your precious plumie's (and you sure sound sad) abt. it, Make sure it's absulutely necessary.

Plumie
kasiec
17 years ago
Hello musarojo - I hope the link below will help you with caring for your Plumerias in Arizona. Best wishes.

Kasie

Here is a link that might be useful: http://www.azplumeria.org/
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musarojo
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17 years ago
Hi Plume;

I am moving to Sedona, which is one of the most beautiful places on earth. Aside from leaving behind good friends and having to place large tropical plants in good homes, I am ok with the move. I have investigated and found that it is too cold to grow plumeria in the ground outdoors without winter protection. One of my relatives there brings in several small plumeria plants (guess who got her started!) every winter. I am hoping that someone in Sedona or an area with a similar climate will chime in with a "no problem" post, and detail how they provide winter protection for outdoor plumeria in a marginal climate. If not, I am going to try to grow a few papaya, air potatoes, and red caster beans next to my new house with winter protection. If they survive, then I will put in plumeria, my Ae-Ae banana, and other tropicals that I would want permanently in the ground.

Right now I live in San Juan Capistrano, less than half a mile from the ocean. A little further inland, away from the temperature moderating effects of the water, I suspect plumeria care would be a bit more difficult. I am not selling my plumeria; I have friends willing and able to provide good homes for them. My new house just isnÂt large enough to provide winter space for all the stuff I have now. I have never had to contemplate crowding a large number of plants into a small indoor space for winter protection. My admiration for all of you who do this has shot up tremendously. DonÂt let spouses and others tell you that you are crazy!

Kassie, thanks for the link. I notice that Celadine is listed as having some ability to withstand cold. I will obtain a cutting of it next spring. I have a plant that may be Celadine, but I would rather obtain a new plant whose identity is certain.
plume
17 years ago
WOW!!!!! You certainly are moving to the most beautiful place probably in the U.S. I was in Sedona a few yrs. ago when I was collecting Kachina Dolls. It is gorgeous those gorgeous red mountains everywhere, what scenery it is also very quaint and soooo! peaceful.

You made a wonderful move and I'm sure you will be very happy there. Although I was also in San Juan Capistrano and that too is a great place.

Wishing you the best

Plumie
kbauman
17 years ago
Hi Musarojo,
Where is Sedona? I used to live in Tucson, met my hubby there. Sounds cool like Flagstaff?
Karen B.
musarojo
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17 years ago
Sedona is between Phoenix and Flagstaff. It is 4500 feet above sea level, so it isnÂt as cold as Flagstaff (6000 feet) or as warm as Phoenix (2000 feet). I have seen its climate listed both as 6a and 8a. Phoenix was recently promoted to zone 10, so I hope 8a is the current rating.

It is a small town with incredible red hills that have been sculpted by nature into one of the most dramatic landscapes on earth. It has a sizable artist community. There are great hiking trails, the air is clean, and much of the area is riparian forestland.

It also is ground zero for New Age weirdness in the Western United States. The New Age types think there are energy vortexes scattered around the area. The Magical Healing Crystal Shop is next door to the Past Life Therapy Clinic, which is below the Holistic Cleansing Enema Emporium. Every flying saucer cult has a branch there, along with a 12-step group for people freaked out because they were abducted by space aliens.

I know I will be happy there. I will find a way deal with the less than ideal climate for plumeria and other tropicals. If I have to put up temporary greenhouses in the winter, so be it. I will also put in a peony, a lilac, and a few other things I canÂt have now.
kasiec
17 years ago
Hi musarojo - I really like my Harbor Freight Greenhouse.
Mine is 10 x 12. I was so excited this summer and tried rooting some Plumerias and ended up frying them. At the time I was only at the house on weekends. But now that we're here permanently I will have a lot of fun this winter.

Kasie
kbauman
17 years ago
Hi Musarojo,
I have an idea where it is, been through Flagstaff couple times, maybe Sedona , don't remember lot of years ago..sure wish I would have remembered, sounds just wonderful and so nice for you. You sound excited and I wish you great luck there. Arizona is a pretty state, Phoenix is a nice city, but way too hot.

4 years ago my husband and I went back to Missouri where I am from, to visit family did a 4,400 mile round trip, came back through northern arizona, pretty country and mountains there too. Hit all the Indian shops all the way. ha
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