Hi Tam, I agree with Chris- from your description it sounds like you surely have thrips. I pulled all of my bell peppers last month even as they started to reflower b/c they started to show signs of thrip damage- new tender leaves (i.e. most yummy ones LOL) show deformity and curling and sometimes slight discoloring/darkening. Some species of thrips like the chili/chilean are extremely small and light colored, making them very difficult to see. Look closely and I bet you find your culprit. HTH Naomi

Moruga, I was thinking possible edema as well, I just wanted to get another opinion. I haven't watered since Saturday and the new growth is starting to look a bit better. It's more of a shiny green instead of a dull green like the other leaves. I'm wondering if I'm going to end up needing to cut off the old growth at some point or if it should be OK to leave. Woohoo, I was also concerned about the temp and humidity since that is a definite difference between the healthy and unhealthy plant. It's still too early to take these outside, I'm in zone 7. Maybe middle of May if I'm lucky. I've opened the door on the greenhouse a couple of weeks ago to let a little of the heat and humidity out, but I may take the greenhouse down entirely if that does end up being the problem. My new seedlings in the same environment seem the be healthy though which then leads me to think over watering again.

Aha! I am guessing I will get some Jalapenos. I got 4 or 5 plants that have leaves that look like a martian landscape. They are bumpy everywhere on the leaves, in stark contrast to the rest of the plants. They are just as large and a pretty deep green color and look awfully healthy to me (7-8in tall by now. They are probably longer, but I have transplanted them a couple of times and gone a little deeper every time). I got the 5 Burpee pack. Sidenote! I got one plant that seems like an awfully slow starter from that pack. The rest of them seem like they love life, but I am not sure about this plant. Maybe I only got 1 of that type growing and it's normal. Just not sure. He just seems like a very slow grower with very small leaves. He's got like 5'th iteration of true leaves and it just does not seem to me like a dislike of life either. (Hmm! Note to self: Don't get to attached to pepper plants!)

Thanks everyone! Jean001a - Would wet feet/soil contribute to it? Seysonn - Will do! I have 8 more cubic feet of the 'chunky' stuff, which is just marked as Local compost--its unfinished compost with a lot of wood pieces still. I've been mixing coffee grounds in with them. Would you suggest I actually put these bags into my compost pile? Which is about 10 cubic yards of fresh and dried grass clippings. I have about 2 more cubic yards of used Coffee grounds as well. -- Here are my thoughts and updates! GOOD NEWS! **Here's what I've done since I first posted this.** I turned off my drip-system. We had two days of rain just prior to me posting this. It was very wet. I added a bag of soil to one of the beds--haven't all of them but will be doing today or tomorrow. Fertilized twice with my 'starter' solution for seedlings/transplants. Its heavy on Nitrogen. **What I plan to do** Water less frequently and split my drip-system up. Currently it's all one set for my 8 beds and my patio with container plants that need watering more often. Watering every 5 days or so, 20 minutes with two emitters that do 20 gallons per hour, so with two, that's 40, only at 20 minutes so that's 15 gallons per bed over 20 minutes or so? Since it's not directly to the soil. Find a way to increase drainage--I didn't use rocks or anything on the bottom of the beds, I only tilled them with a hand tiller. Could I aerate them to increase drainage--stab them a bunch of times 12-24'' down? Maybe install a few PVC pipes thru the lower portion with a screen on one side so run off can easily escape? The beds are at an angel/slope, 6'' one side, 10'' the other. My natural soil is very clayish, sticky when wet. The lower corner of the beds have either brick or hard lumps of soil filling them (I know, I'm so pro). Could I maybe use some kinda mesh instead to hold the soil in and thus allow air/water to flow out easier? Filling the soil level up in all the tomato beds beyond the brim with a pre-veggie garden soil mix. **Observations and Photo update** I've observed all my plants are doing much better since I've stopped watering them. It appears to have been my #1 problem. I still see mushrooms in most beds in the morning, leading me to believe the soil is still rather moist even now. All the plants are doing -much better-. I had yellowing cucumbers that are vibrant and dark green now, growing quickly. My melon plants are growing similarly as well. I'm going to get the net trellis installed today. My pepper plants appear to be turning a darker green adn getting more foliage---three of them have fist sized fruit on them. I've picked off flowers/fruit off all but the largest and I know they all are still pretty small. Tomatoes Tomatoes Tomatoes -- They are ALL doing much better! Many of them are growing new leaves WITHOUT LEAF ROLL! Some have slight leaf roll, but not the deranged totally gnarled looking ones. However, two of them are not AND have white spots/yellowing leaves/insanely twisted leaves still -- while a plant of the same species right next to it shows NONE of the same signs of sickness. SuperSweet100's Thank everyone for all the help. I really do appreciate it. I've learned so much from all of you over the last year. :) I'm just wanting to ensure I'm taking all the necessary steps to have a good yield this year and learn how to make next year way better! :) Here is a link that might be useful: Syntria's Gardening Videos