Me too . I can't wait . I have dozens of little color buds waiting to pop all over my 25 bushes. I think what they need is a few days in a row of some nice warm sunny days. I have given them water, fertilizer and alfafa tea. Maybe I should try doing a HHRD.

I think what you are seeing is possibly a slight language barrier, coupled with the use of technical terminology, so I wouldn't count out the advice or musings of anyone quite yet. :-) I do believe that some of our posters reside in other areas of the world... such as Europe, or on other continents... and there may be a slight loss or change of meaning through translation. What I do is assume that everyone posts in a friendly manner, and if I don't quite understand something said, it's either due to a difference in language, or a difference in technical knowledge. English used in America is very difficult to master, and it's filled with slang and different placement of the various sentence parts. And since we can't see the gestures or expressions of our fellow posters, we can only guess at "how" they meant something. Some of us speak in more technical terms, and some use more common wording. I'll be the first to admit that some of the more technical language is lost on me, which is why I lean toward the more common terms. But once you go deeper into the technical and scientific aspects of plant husbandry and breeding, you'll be using those same terms and the barrier you detect now won't exist. I think Hans is only giving you a "heads up" so you won't be too disappointed if your breeding doesn't "take". He has a lot of experience in such areas, and although it doesn't hurt to try something that is known to fail for others, I think he's only trying to share his knowledge and spare you any disappointment. Go easy on us old-timers, please! :-) We each have a lot to offer through our individual experiences, and our differing opinions formed over time. The best course of action is to take what you can use from the various postings, and leave the rest. Often, it's by sifting through such information and opinions that we discover a new outlook that we hadn't previously thought about! As example, I grow things completely differently than quite a few other posters, but it was only through their shared ideas that I was prompted to search further... so, in reality, I have them to thank for pushing me to learn more! While the underlying basics of plant husbandry remain the same, there are numerous variables when it comes to individual environment, methodology, and the genetic heredity of a plant, itself. So, while something works for one grower, it may not be possible for another grower to duplicate. And this is why everyone's shared information has some merit.

If you start counting from the moment I started collecting Hoyas, it took a couple months, because I had javanica, which is quick to flower. After about 6 months heuschkeliana started to bloom nearly constantly. After about 1 year I had seen a fair handful of flowers, mostly from cuttings received with peduncles intact. I would say it's around year 3 that there is alway something blooming. I have come to believe that carnosa received its bad reputation because it is the most common Hoya. That means lots of people grow it without knowing its needs, then blame performance issues on the plant. If you give carnosa strong light (enough to turn the leaves pea green) it will bloom within 6 months - 1 year. I took a couple carnosas, which had grown for nearly 10 years without blooming, moved them close to eastern windows, and after waiting a year they could not be better blooming. This puts them in the average wait range for most Hoyas. :) I know I'm always talking about Pepeuve, but I find his documentation of fresh peduncle-free cuttings that bloom after 6 months very inspiring. It goes to show what the plant is capable of, whether or not the rest of us can replicate the growing conditions of Malaga. :P

There was another thread I recall no too long ago of another member having this same occurrence... Think it may have been Josh, not sure though. Jay