To Plant ot Not to Plant?? Trumpet Vine and Rose of Sharon
lydia1959
19 years ago
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Wanted: Trumpet or Bush/Shrub Honeysuckle plants
Comments (0)I am loking for ANY trumpet honeysuckle (NOT trumpet vine) or any bush or shrub type honeysuckle. In pink, red, white or any other colors you may have. Plants please as I am NOT good at growing seeds or cuttings. I have the following to offer: Rose cuttings Pomegranate cuttings Trumpet vines rooted plants Vinca vine rooted plant Irises Canna lily "Florence Vaughan" or I can do postage. Thank-you for reading this. Fantasygal1------sunshine98gw@sbcglobal.net...See Morethinking of planting thornless rose vine by my pergola
Comments (30)I applaud your eagerness, virtu, but I think you need to consider quite a few things before you plant anything. About those pots. Christopher is correct, you need something that will stand up to your winters. Do not use terracotta or any kind of ceramic pots. They will freeze and shatter probably the first winter. Find the thick walled foam or resin pots and go WAY BIGGER than you think you need. Roses grown in pots occasionally have to be root pruned and given new soil or they'll die. Root pruning means you have to take the pot off and cut back the root ball. That's going to be difficult to do with a 10 ft rose. The bigger the pot the less often you'll have to do that. I have 50 some roses in pots and in my zone 6 I root prune about every 5 years but it also depends a lot on the vigor of the rose you're growing. Roses also require pruning some times and particularly in cold climates where there is winter kill. It's going to be very difficult to prune them on top of that structure. Another thing is the pergola itself. What is it made of and is it going to need regular maintenance of some kind? You'll have to be able to remove any growth for that. Some things can be lifted and laid down for maintenance and then put back up. I know I've done that with clematis before in order to paint some posts I have it growing on. Roses tend to be stiffer though and that could be harder to do. You said there was soil at the base of the posts. How big an area and how deep can you dig there? It looks like you have patio block. You may be able to plant them there if they are small plants to start with. If they can still get water through the patio blocks the roots will be able to spread out beneath it. They'll really do better planted in the ground and will be way less up keep for you too. My other concern is sunlight. Looks like there's a big tree near by. How much sun does the area get? Roses need at least 6 hours of full sun and more like 8 to grow and bloom well. I'm not trying do dissuade you. I agree with you that it would be gorgeous. I'm just trying to make sure you enter this well prepared. It's always better to know what to expect and be ready to deal with it....See MoreOT Hibiscus or rose of Sharon?
Comments (11)MIke lol....Yes I love that one too. That is why I tried to root a lot from that one. But this one just did not want to root. All I got moslty is the light pink/purple double ROS ardens one. Even the light pink did not want to root easily. About the sock MIke...I keep that in mind. No wonder Kristy and I are getting along so great hahahahaha hmm I just dug out something about the name of this shrub. Well I THINK, that a rose of Sharon falls under the more general species of Hibiscus? Could that be? I have 0 knowledge :-( But the old order for the rose of Sharon *Ardens*...now i have one name already :-) some 15 years ago says: Hibiscus.....rose of Sharon *Ardens* H. syriacus. Ok I am going to fix that in the trade list. Lucy...See MoreMy Rose jungle is infested with Trumpet Vine
Comments (19)OK, responses to everyone follow. Here goes: @Seil I think it will bloom again, but not as profusely as it does in the spring. Actually it HAS to bloom again, as I moved in in July last year and it bloomed after that. But not as much as it bloomed this spring. Though that may have been due to the lack of care for the year or so before we moved in while the property was empty. @Joe Moose - was that Trumpet vine you did that to, or Virginia creeper? As I failed to notice that I have BOTH of them coming up in these roses. The pulled out stuff was trumpet vine, and some Virginia creeper. The stuff that is left is ALL Virginia creeper. @ fig_insanity - yes, I failed to notice, I have both. I'm not allergic to Virginia creeper - I AM slightly allergic to the trumpet vine. 2-4,D is what I was told to use to kill the Trumpet vine (except I'm not "allowed" to use it because it will allegedly kill the mother plant, which is not on my property), but that won't work for the Virginia creeper? What is a "real brush killer" then? @mad Gallica, fig_insanity, nanadoilZ7, Cecily - It is Virginia creeper in the pictures, but most of what I pulled out WAS trumpet vine. The mother plant is 30 or 50' away. It sprouts up everywhere between the back fence and the rose bushes. Its' a constant hassle. I hate the stuff. Yes, indeed, the suckers are (not almost) IMPOSSIBLE to get rid of. PLEASE tell me Virginia creeper is easier to destroy! @countrygirl - I don't know that I'll be here next spring, but if I am, I will cut the old canes out. @vasue - they're overgrown. You can't do anything around them and they rub up against the siding and damage it just from rubbing back and forth in the wind, which there is a lot of. I think 8' tall was conservative; they are grown up to the eaves, which has to be a good 10', what with the crawlspace. They were definitely planted too close together, given their mature size. Actually, they are probably even taller than 10" at their greatest extent, given we have 10' ceilings inside, plus the crawlspace. So the eaves are at least 11' or 12' above the patio. I guarantee, no mildew. It is extremely arid here - High Sierras Desert. We get 7" of rain per year. That is dust from the winds blowing the desert sands around. I do have a long reach pruner, but only one working arm. Hopefully my son can wiggle far enough in there (while I hold the thorny canes up) to cut what's left off at ground level, when he gets back from being out of town. The landlady has never lived here. She bought the place out of foreclosure. It had been totally neglected for at least a year, probably longer, before she bought it, and other than propping the rear fence back up (because the trumpet vine is pulling it down), she knows NOTHING about what is and is not growing here. Honestly, if the roses die - I'll just plant more roses. It would be worth it, not to have to deal with both trumpet vine AND the Virginia creeper in that part of the border. SO I DON"T CARE - if the roses die, they die. They can be replaced. The trumpet vine and Virginia creeper have to go, if at all possible. @toolbelt - can't really get in past the thorny overgrown rose canes to do that to most of what's down at ground level. We will try, though. @stillannt - Moving is the ONLY solution to trumpet vine, IMO. I am just really glad that we rent this, and didn't buy it. I know now to check for trumpet vine before buying anything, LOL! I love trumpet vine flowers and the way it attracts hummingbirds; but there are lots of other plants that attract hummingbirds that aren't nearly as troublesome. I'm just glad I never bought and planted it before I discovered its insidious evil. I would feel so guilty! I love mango - lived in Puerto Rico for several years. But I can only eat ONE raw mango, and that only if I very carefully peel it, cut it into cubes, and use a fork to pass it over my lips WITHOUT TOUCHING anywhere. If I eat TWO, I get sores INSIDE the mouth. So yeah - I'm allergic to that stuff. Thanks for everyone's input....See Morecreatrix
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