Check my list and let me know if there are enough varitys you want to do a large trade. I am interested in the pumpkins and gourds and anything else I dont have on my list. Let me know. Tod Seed to Seed Gardens Here is a link that might be useful: Seed to Seed Gardens

I bought P. alata seeds off Ebay last January from josam5. They were very inexpensive and easier to germinate than any other Passie seed I've tried. They produced numerous, huge vines outdoors here in Indiana which grew between 10-25 feet at least. I wish I had rooted some when I had to cut them all back to bring them in this September, but was very busy at the time. Otherwise, I'd be happy to trade. All I can advise is trying to get them going from seed. Good luck!

OkPrairie: The best blooming hibiscus for me so far, with the longest lasting blooms has been the Texas Star. It is open in the morning when I leave at 8:00 a.m. and still open in the evening when I get home at 6:00 p.m. The other hybrids' blooms don't open until after I leave for work, and sometimes, if I'm lucky, I'll see one open right before it declines in the evening. I'm so enjoying this long weekend. We need some more rain, but I also enjoy getting out and watering in order to check on the plants (for bugs, diseases, deadheading, whatever). Can't do that if I rely on soaker hoses and sprinklers all the time. I love having them for back up, but true gardening to me, is hands on. I'm waiting for Gulf Fritillaries still! Got plenty of passiflora. My new aster is putting forth new foliage and appears it will be a vigorous plant - to about 4' with purple flowers, blooms in late summer, and is supposed to be a grand nectaring plant for butterflies. Time will tell. Oh, it is aster tartaricus 'Jindai'. Ordered it from Lazy S's Farm. I love those folks there. Plants are small, but they will return your e-mail, make suggestions if you don't know what you are looking for, but know what you want it to do for you. I have plenty of milkweed seeds for next year (will start indoors early), asclepias curassavica. I've heard the Monarchs really like it best. Weeds, weeds everywhere. Too many to try to play catch up with now, so will just have to weather the weed storm until next year. I really need to put in some tough ground cover that will grow at the base of crowded plants, enough to stay the weeds. Any suggestions? I'm thinking maybe Bugle Weed will do the trick, or money wort. I have that, and can put plenty of starts out there. Tomorrow, I'm cutting back the Joe Pye Weed. The Morning Glories have taken in over so they will go with it. I expect I'll get some more growth out of the eupatorium before frost sets in. Datura is blooming, and I am to get some seeds of the yellow flowering datura. Am looking forward to that. Of my 3 hydrangeas planted in the back yard, H. Frau Reiko and oakleaf hydrangea are the best. I love the hot pink blooms on H. Merritt's Pride, but it demands so much more watering than the others. Does anyone know when Elderberry blooms? My Goldilocks ivy is growing well. It really brightens up that shady corner, and doesn't seem as overwhelming as the regular ivy. Two of my elephant ears are blooming! 'Illustris' and 'Fontanesii'. Actually, the bloom sets the foliage back a bit, but I wanted to see what they looked like. I'm going to get tiny tubers off my Hitchhiker EE; will try to bring to the trade. Can you guys tell me some nectar flowers that I can winter sow? Tomato_Hornworm - if you get on this forum, I know there is a sphinx moth that uses sweet potato as a host plant. Do you recall which one? Is anyone planting anything this fall? I am not going to get my lindera benzoin until the 1st week of October. I hope it will be okay to plant then. What do you think? I know, so many questions, but you guys are so helpful. If you weren't so helpful, I wouldn't be so inclined to ask! LOL! Susan

LOL..I had experience at my old house digging up 4 oclocks. I think I got a 4'root that was shaped like fat legs of a man. I had three huge plants like that and a multitude of babies. I kept at it and finally succeeded. There are some nice native 4 o'clocks that are better behaved. I am sitting here wondering about Salvia chiquita. It is new in the trade (8 years or so) and in my yard, I am starting to think it is enterely TOO Happy. THousands of seedlings this year.Years ago, I was unaware of the invasive list when I planted ruella ( maybe it was not on it yet) at my old house and same with the tahitian bridal veil. they both took over good. I whish I had known that there was a list to get information from 30 years ago. I think I would have made some different decisions. I sold that house. I weeded it to peices before I left but I went back and yes it is back.I am a lot more careful now. I am taking the salvia to a plant swap with warnings to keep an eye on it. It is not on the list, but is it only a matter of time I am afraid. Maybe people in clay will have a different experience. I backed the salvia off away from the slope...Same with the Roman Chamomile. I am looking sideways at both now and feeling maybe this is the year that I start yanking. I googled for info on the net and I have not seen the salvia mentioned. I do know that California has problems with some invasive salvias. They have the wet winter dry summer rythm. It seeds out in dry winters and wet winters, just a lot more on wet winters. If there is someone out there that has experience with this in the central Texas canyon land area and has some thoughts about the seeding habits of these plants.