The third one looks like it could be Catmint...the second one doesn't look like anything I recognize and the first really looks like Lobelia siphilitica to me. I've never grown the Tithonia, could that be #2? Sorry I wasn't able to stick to your list better. Jeanne

I have yin/yang feelings about this post. First, you never get 100% germination with any seed, and as seed are natural things it's not uncommon to have any particular lot be duds. It happens, it's not what anyone wants, certainly not the seed provider, but it happens. When it happens you send an email or call or write a letter (how old fashioned but it still works) and you work it out. The customer is always right and the provider replaces the seed. No biggee. Next, there's nothing wrong with airing your views, that's a first amendment right, however that doesn't mean that there can be no reaction to that. People may like it, and people may want to chew your head off for it.And at some forums, you can speak what you want but TOS may get you and your post removed. I can certainly understand frustration and venting. At my home, when we're unhappy with a service provided to us we deal with it. If there's no satisfaction then there's Angie's List, BBB, and even small claims court, and there are many, many other venues to rate a vendor or service provider. Google maps reminds me of flying in a plane over neighborhoods, looking out the window and seeing roofs and pools, driveways and roads and farmland or cities and suburbs, barns or sheds, etc etc. Google Satellite doesn't have xray eyes and it can't see under a roof or in closets or drawers. Google Street-view gives you a drive-by view similar to when you're in your car rolling down the road. And as to property values or taxes, as was mentioned above, you only need google an address and you can get that info in about three seconds, twelve if you're on dial-up. I know that's so because we did some Q&A before a refi to check values in the neighborhood. Realtors can provide you with a lot of info and all of it is available freely and offered without log-in or contract. I brought all that up because similarly, I too grow a good amount of my own tomato bulk stock. And it grows on the property here. There's a registered business here, it's all about seeds. I would not be offended if someone looked up on google the address or checked google maps and took a look. This is not an invasion of my privacy. If you come over to my house and peek in my windows, open the car and rummage through the glove box, or enter the gated property without my permission that is something different. Personally, I would be POed if someone trashed WinterSown and didn't give me the opportunity to speak my views. So, in good faith, someone go get Marianna and tell her she has an opportunity here to discuss her policy on customer satisfaction. KCKook, if she's unaware of the complaint she can't address it, go get her, let her know, give her this opportunity to publicly make things right.

That party sounds like fun! Even though the "I'll never be hungry again" line is one of the movie's most famous, food was not as much of a theme in a movie as it was it the book. Margaret Mitchell used food as a major theme in the book to contrast "before the war" and "after the war". On a plantation with hundreds of people to feed every day there are many descriptions of the bounty of food before the war. There were far more options on the table than the family could eat "so that everyone could have their favorites". Annie's description of what was available after the war is right on: dried peas - with a little bacon if they were lucky! A lot of the "ladies" died slowly of malnutrition and starvation after the war. Here's a blackeyed pea salad from The Neely's: Ingredients 1 large tomato, diced 1/2 medium red onion, finely chopped 1 small red bell pepper, finely chopped 1 jalapeno, finely chopped 2 tablespoons chopped green onions 2 tablespoons chopped fresh parsley leaves 1/4 cup unseasoned rice wine vinegar 1/4 cup canola oil 1/2 teaspoon sugar Salt and freshly ground black pepper 2 (15-ounce) cans black-eyed peas, drained Directions Combine the first 6 ingredients in a bowl. In a separate small bowl, whisk together the rice wine vinegar, canola oil, sugar, and salt and pepper. Toss all together and let marinate for at up to 8 hours in the refrigerator before serving.

Follow up - resolution. Per KD the bead board wasn't costly enough to even make a dent - he said for the Shiloh line to do a plain veneer of that size with filler would be more expensive. The bead board can be easily seamed at the groove so easier install also. The corbels however were where he thought we could cut cost and possibly find something elsewhere or through our granite fabricator. A quick call to the fabricator and certainly - much more cost effective! In their view I could easily drop one of the corbels on the short side but will would need 3 supports across the front where the 9' span is. We have a wall built out from the cabs to shorten the overhang (4' deep island) so they can easily mount support braces there. Yay!! So dropping the corbels (which I didn't have strong feelings toward either way, totally was a decision of function not aesthetics for me) was an easy concession. I ended up within $1.41 of my original invoice dropping the corbels and adding the Blum - there was a ~$110.00 adjustment in my favor for the Hickory as well. I couldn't believe it. The supports for the counter top from my fabricator will be much less than the $650ish cost from the cabinet mfg and I won't have to worry about stool and leg banging. Not sure you'd see them much with the stools there anyhow. Thank you to all that contributed for and against the upgrade. I am feeling much better and appreciate all of your comments helping me along my way!