Hi Mentha,

Well I can't really see what kind they are, but the 1st does look so Dischia, (w/ those round, ant plant like leaves).

How does the mix look? Can't tell from the pix, if they were mine, I'd take some cuttings of each to root in water. Then I'd unpot the plants to see what the mix has done & what condition the roots are in.

From this distance, my feeling is that they don't really look unwell, jut dry.

the hoya was outside, so my guess is it got too cold and with the recent rains, did it in. the soil is moist and soil level leaves are yellow or mush inside.

The Dischidia was inside, but still the estimation was it was too cold for it, this was the better looking of the two he had. The one I bought before was carnage from the frost also. It's warmer on the coast, but still may have been too cool for him.

Well Mentha,

If you know my posts, don't be surprised if I suggest you unpot them to see what's going on.

If it were me, I'd shake off all the old mix & give it new, making sure to add lots of perlite/pumice (roughly 1/3 of the mix) for fast drainage.

Whether or not you do the above, I'd stress removal of anything soft & mushy, that's rot & it's likely to spread. Yellow leaves shoudl go too.

Got any VF-11 which w/ you could mist them? They'd likely benefit from it.

I DO hope you'lll take some cuttings whatever you do.

Denise (from Omaha) comes to mind as growing Dischidias, perhaps she'll pop in & comment.

I'm one ahead of you, they got VF-11 last night, and plan on repotting this weekend. I do listen to your posts ;)

Hi Mentha,

Your second plant looks like it could be D. latifolia aff. as seen at this link... http://www.dischidia.com/dischidia_latifolia_aff.htm
I got the same one as a Hoya, but it never looked quite right to me as a Hoya and I eventually found out it's a Dischidia. Mine has yet to flower, but I'm pretty pumped about seeing it do so after seeing pics of the tiny flowers!

I can't really tell what the first one is... But neither look in really bad shape by any means. Follow Karen's advice and they'll probably be fine and grow like weeds come spring. Congrats on your new plants!

Denise in Omaha

Well I don't know what happened to Denise's post, but I got it in my email. so nobody but her will know what I'm replying to.
This is the second pot I have of this plant, both from the same source. The other plant I have just like it was labeled h. australis ID'd as Hoya sp. "bogor" (verticillata) here on GW and epiforums.

The Dischidia you posted is a beauty, but the leaves on mine have more raised veins. I'll try to get a better picture of the leaves, tomorrow.

That must have been a hiccup from the maintenence they just did, because I see it now :S

Hi again, Mentha... Then the leaves must be bigger than they look in the pic (that's the trouble w/pics - size is always a mystery!) Verticillata leaves are MUCH larger than those on this Dischidia. I should know by now to ask about leaf size because so many have the same shape!

Denise in Omaha

I'll try to find something to put in the picture for comparison. Right now I am taking a break from cleaning. Landlord/grandfather decided to tell me today that tomorrow he's sending someone to fix our window. Not that I'm not greatful for the fix. We've been waiting for months for it to be fixed, but every time he comes by he has a list of things we need to do NOW! that's one of the problems from renting from family, they take liberties which wouldn't be allowed from a normal landlord.

The system must really be wonky from the work they're doing. I see a post from Denise, but none w/ a pic.

I couldn't click into Hoyas from C&S or from 'Refresh', I had to go thru a link on the page telling me 'Server Error'. Oh well, at least they DID warn us & I WAS able to get thru!

Mentha, glad to hear you've got VF-11, also that you find my posts worthwhile (smiling here)!

Karen

If you remove the '2' from the address bar to make the address look like: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/hoya/ instead of http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/hoya/ it works. The link from the HP forum doesn't work either.

Denise sent a link to a picture. Sorry for the confusion.

After pulling out all the mushy and decrepid leaves, there really isn't much left. I also think the soil is too heavy. I have not watered it since getting it, and you can see how moist the soil is. Tomorrow I am going to repot the cuttings with the other plant and hope for the best. I put a universal measuring device in the picture so you can compare the leaf size.

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This is my other plant, it's sparse, but has healthy leaves. You can't see the raised veins all to well, because the undersides are shown on the two larger leaves, but it's the best I can do for now.