quote: Yea hawwwww all r coming up now just didn't with long enough but I had thrown all the rest of the seed away soguess I should not have been so hasty =================== aha! excellent. yeah, it was waiting for a bit more warmth, cold stratifying naturally through the cold season. thats what i think. yes i always throw the pots that havent shown anything forever in a place i wouldnt mind if they sprout. usually off to the side of an existing bed. and totally totally, a lot of that stuff sprouts later.... the right cold then warm cycle....and putting them on the ground beside the garden beds makes them finally pop.

Hi again jungle87, I see you got an email link set up. Great! I have 3 varieties of butterfly bush, 2 named and a lavender one with no name. If you will send me your addy, I'll get some of each out to you...no trade needed. Just LMK Sue...chemocurl

My brother walks in the room, says where are you going to put all of these hibiscus and datura seedlings and I tell him, It's not how many there are, it's how many are going to live. If I start with 10 of the same kind, I'm sure to get 2-3. There's just too many things that can go wrong with seedlings, so if I want a plant from seed bad enough I'll order or get enough to ensure I get 1...lol You probably shouldn't have had that compost in for seedlings, and no fertilizer at all until they've got at least their second set of leaves (1st true set) but from the sounds of it, your remanders are strong and doing fine. Use a very little fertilizer at first...as in real diluted, just enough to get them use to it. You'll have to feel your way through as to when to add more as all plants have thresholds for such things. I like researching things but I can't remember how much I fertilized. Though I don't know if that's necessary if you already have compost in your mix. Now, I haven't grown lunars, but I have grown 5+ other kinds. Your roots, I believe, are little tubers and they must stay attached to the neck of the plant when you transplant, much like dahlia's except longer and thinner tubers relative to the plant size. They are stonger than veining type of roots. All my hardy hibiscus shoot straight out, in one direction or another. I expect yours are probably curling around the bottom of the pot and you should have them in ever bigger sized pots. Just keep in mind, a root bound pot means there is so much root in the pot that the water just runs right over the roots and out the bottom, with nothing much to help keep the water near the roots for a long enough time. They will grow much faster in their second year and probably be able to reach full heighth in the third. Albeit those newer kinds of hibiscus (especially to most of us here in Canada)do each have their own characteristics and your own growing environment and care will have a lot to say about how fast they'll grow. But from what I've read and I've read on almost every kind, have the same growth biology...but there are always exceptions to the rules, such as Lord Baltimore and others that can grow pretty tall. - Sandy

tlbean, Yes. If it split open and you can see the seeds, they are ready. You can plant them now if you want. You can also save them til next year, it's up to you. Congrats on wanting to grow your own, you never know what color you will end up with. It's fun!