Word on the street is the Euro LIR is sold here in the US as Strawberries & Cream. Whether or not it's genetically similar to other macs could be done by people like Dirr who test from time to time. Big Box retailers have been selling this, particular around Mother's Day, if you want one. It's said to do particularly well outside, although I've not tested it myself. http://www.tesselaar.com/plants/gift-hydrangea/strawberries-and-cream/

Vapor ... it was all a coincidence! I went to my local nursery on the one day a year they have a sale for easy spirit rose . It was pouring buckets , but I wanted that discount! I was sprinting to the check out building with my large rose , my toddler who didn't want to walk in mud in the other hand , and a gentleman opened the door for me. Turns out he is the president of the Nashville chapter . He grabbed the rose from me and was giving me the newbie rundown on roses . So we started talking and I told him I wasn't new to roses .. he invited me to the meeting the next day and was so welcoming! He then told me all new members get a rose and he had one just for me .. "lady in red! You can't get it anywhere, it's new " he said . I smiled and said I would be there ! So now I have two lady's , and I really enjoyed the meeting. There is definitely some opinions there about everything.. just like here. ;) I found out the VP lives just down the road so we are arranging to see each other's garden . I encourage you to try a meeting !! Even if I can't make every meeting, they have discounts on roses and things in the spring and I can't wait to see the open gardens people have . Sorry for the essay ! Lol

Vaporvac, It was going in that corner until we saw Fourth of July. We were both very taken with Fourth of July so decided to put that in the place where we took out the old well established once blooming red rose that may have been Dr. Huey. The reason I give it all the qualifiers is that it was tip hardy and apparently Dr. Huey isn't even supposed to live in our zone so it may have been something else. Here is Forth of July today. It is just so cheerful! So it got the prime spot at the corner of the house and Lady in Red got put into the cutting garden. But I also love Lady in Red's blooms. It was really a struggle to relegate her to the cutting bed. If she is cane hardy I'm considering getting another to replace Robusta on the east side of our house. It is a prime spot with great sun and I see it every day. Robusta didn't have as large of blooms as I had read and is the only rose I ordered sight unseen instead of picking out personally.

Wow! That is so much growth. I'm thinking mine would devour that trellis in a nanosecond! : )) I guess I never posted my pics. Oops! I'll try in a bit. Anyway, after being in a pot and languishing I planted her earlier this summer and she's spent all this time putting down roots and leaves. Poor thing was completely defoliated. I think she'll soon be putting out a mass of buds and give a good show for late summer. Cl. Crimson Glory is doing the same, but has flowered today. THE BEST SCENT!!! Florentina is also chugging along. I expect great things from this one once I move the trees and trim the shubs that are shading her a bit too much. I love all these red climbers. However, if you love this one, get another. It's wonderful to have more that one, especially to cut and float in bowls! : )) P.S. I'm really liking Sally since she's in the ground! What a bloom machine and such a refreshing looking rose.