Okay, more thoughts from the side of the practitioner here...this is THE SECRET to obtaining comprehensive care: because all clinicians are so pressed for time in today's health care climate, a patient must triage their problems in order of priority and then feed them into the purview of their primary care provider one at a time. Its a great idea to bring in a list, but don't expect everything on the list to be managed at that one visit--know yourself what THE thing is that must be addressed at that visit, tell the clinician, then either hand the physical list over for reference at other visits to be put in your chart or just mentally make a note of where you are in your internal list of needs. Then go back for another visit until you've knocked all the problems down. The second thing is that communication between the people to whom we refer and the person doing the referring is uniformly shoddy--I think its a great scandal in medical care. Anyway, take the referring clinician's card, stick it in the hand of the person to whom you've been referred and ask them to send a note back on the visit to that person. Your chances are improved with this maneuver, but by no means guaranteed. Then, after a suitable amount of time has gone by--enough time for a transcribed note for the specialist visit to have been generated and sent--call the referring clinician and leave them a message as to whether they've received the results of your specialty visit. Ask them to call you with the results. This will prod them to ask someone on their staff to call the specialist and get them to FAX the note from you visit that they've not been sent, etc. etc. You've got to be an active participant in this game.

it would be important to know where you are .. z5/6 is half the US .... but ice for sure.. lol... you are jumping the gun ... you can dig whenever you want ... but when you are standing on damp soil.. your weight.. will compact where you stand .... go stand in a harmless spot ... dig a hole ... and see how the soil is ... then jump up and down a few times.. step back.. and dig where you were standing... you should see a great difference in soil compaction ... and that is what you want to avoid .... e.g. in my sand soil.. well trodden sand... becomes near concrete when it dries in july/august ... not good ... so basically.. stay out of the garden if your feet squish into the soil ... see link.. for an old post of mine .... it came to mind.. and might save me a lot of typing this morning ... good luck ... ken Here is a link that might be useful: link

I don't know a lot about picking mangos mature green, but I can say I know someone with a Mallika, and he picks at least some ripe from the tree, and they sure tasted great. You might experiment with letting a few ripening on the tree. You could wait until you see one start to lighten some, and pick a few then to box up to ripen indoors. Gary

Here is an interesting article that I ran across today...really speaks to this topic: ========================================================== One writer struggles to believe that a new house does not equal a new and better life. by Jodi Helmer Everything would be different -- if only I lived in that bungalow; the charming one with the gabled roof, dormer windows and wide front porch. I would throw dinner parties, sit on a leather sofa in front of the fire, bake biscuits in the kitchen, sip sweet tea on the front porch, wear colorful rubber boots to work in the garden and let the dogs run free behind the white picket fence. It's my own house -- too tall, too thin, too little charm and a neighborhood that's not hip enough -- that makes this lust so palpable. Or so I've convinced myself. I stand under a towering oak tree across the street and stare; I walk past after dark to peer in the lit windows for a better view of the interior; I search real estate websites for virtual tours. All the while, I imagine the life I could have if I lived in one of the picture-perfect bungalows. Things would be different. Cozier. Better. "When you covet a house, it's not the house you're after, it's a different version of your life," said Meghan Daum, author of the book Life Would Be Perfect If I Lived in That House. "We trick ourselves into believing that it's our house that's holding us back; if we moved into a new house we'd be a better cook, our relationships would be better, we'd be thinner, we'd entertain more..." I feel better knowing that I'm not alone in thinking a new house equals a new life. From the moment I signed on the dotted line to buy this townhouse in 2007, I had plans to sell. Maybe that's why I'm always looking over my shoulder at other houses -- because I've always believed that the house I own now is just a place to live until something better comes along. In fact, each time I think I've eyed the perfect house -- the one I'd cash in retirement accounts and inheritances to own -- I develop a crush on another one. Even if I'm fortunate enough to own one of the bungalows in my favorite neighborhood, I'm certain that I'll continue to lust after other houses. I'll develop crushes on houses in more desirable neighborhoods with bigger front porches, prettier gardens and more historic appeal. If there is one thing I know about house envy it's that the condition is chronic; the attraction to real estate never stops. A few months ago, I hatched a plan to move into the perfect house. One evening, while I was walking the dogs, I noticed that one of the little bungalows I loved had a "For Rent" sign in the front yard. I took a flyer and spent the rest of the week trying to figure out how I could move into that house. Once again, I was picturing myself hosting dinner parties, drinking sweet tea on the front porch and wearing rubber boots in the garden. A friend suggested that I rent out my townhouse and move into the little bungalow. It was the perfect solution -- and then I thought about what moving would really mean. The truth is, I would rather meet friends at a restaurant than entertain; I hate leather furniture almost as much as I hate baking and biscuits; I prefer Diet Coke to sweet tea; and the last time I had a garden, the plants were either overgrown or dead. While I am waxing poetic about wide front porches and picket fences, I am ignoring all of the things I love about the house I own: It's just the right size; there are French doors in the kitchen that lead to a private patio, an oversized bathtub in the master bedroom and loads of storage space. There are even dormer windows. Blinded by bungalow lust, I've forgotten one of the most important things about the place I live: It's more than just a house; it's a home. It's the place where I mourned the end of a marriage and celebrated the thrill of falling in love again. It's the place where I negotiated my first book contract and spent countless hours hunched over a computer in the office to meet the deadline. It's the place where I made Christmas dinner solo for the first time, cutting potatoes and carrots with a dull paring knife and checking the roast 20 times to see if it was cooked. It's the place where I fostered six dogs, doling out rawhides and cleaning up accidents until each one found its forever home. It's the place I retreat to; the place I feel safe. The house is not perfect. There are no hardwood floors, no built-ins and no picket fence -- but there are memories and each one is far more important than a big front porch and wide wood moldings will ever be. I know I'll never be cured of house envy. I'll continue to fall in love with a new house on each block but the next time I'm standing under a towering oak tree and peering in the windows of a picture perfect bungalow, imagining what life would be like if I lived there, I'm going to remember that it might be a beautiful house but it's not home.