Jroot, again you have given some wise information!! I agree for one brug it's hard to justify the cost, plus this is the first one for her so it's going to be really hard to just cut it back, right? I also live in the Zone 7-8 and advise folks not to put young plants into the ground, my general rule is a 3 year old plant if it's staying in the ground. For the last 3 years I have been playing with many different ways of putting potted brugs into the ground. There are some variety of brugs that will die if their roots are disturbed so to just put them into the ground might not be a good idea in some cases. I also don't recommend bumping up into the largest pot you can find either. After 5 years in a 32 gallon pot one must trim the roots. While in a 32 gallon pot, one must think about how to move these and if you don't have the right connections this may break your back trying to get this inside. Wintering brugs inside is another issue that is one of a personal side if you let them go dormant or you keep them going. Yes you can get them to go dormant in 70 degrees! It's late and I hope this makes sense.

Also check the tomato forum and propagation forum, as well as Youtube videos.

Don't waste your time ladies and gent.... She knows her BF is a deadbeat and she supports him. I wanted to say the same thing so badly. Life together, Quirk stated "you get to see how your partner parents. Not how they say they plan to parent, but how they actually do parent." Why are there not enough clues for you? It is all these types of things that happen over time you get to see and scrutinize to determine if this is the kind of person you want to plan a life with. What you are doing is deciding you want a deadbeat dad for your own child(ren); you are deciding that for your own children, you want not only a deadbeat dad but one who is emotionally abusive to them and to you; you are deciding you want a man who is so controlling you stay confused most of your life and there is no way you can possibly do anything right because he finds something wrong with everything (the subject of his daughter is only the tip of the iceberg); you are deciding you want a man who does not consider your time, your feelings, or your existence as a human being who deserves any kind of respect; you are deciding you want a man who use his passive/aggressive tactics to constantly keep you feeling guilty and make you think you are the one always in the wrong; you are deciding you want a man who will bad mouth you to your children, family, and friends. You are not special. You only fool yourself into thinking you are because you are the person with him and you just loooooove 'im. But when the two of you break up (unless you take his abuse for the rest of your life), you will see him do the exact same things he has done to his ex and his daughter. With each of your subsequent posts, you make clearer the things you stated prior. I don't know why we have to pull your teeth because some of the initial posts have lacked information we would need to in order to satisfy what you expect from us. They also made you look like the bad guy. A little of that part I still question but really think those circumstances were created out of your desperation to finally do something that pleases him - a man who cannot be pleased. But this is getting worse by the word. Sylviatexas had him pegged from the beginning. LOL I should have known better than to second guess her. There is nothing to figure. There is nothing to try an remedy. There is nothing to talk to him about to try to straighten out. The only thing for you to do is decide to stay (all the things you are deciding you want) or go. But that was never your question, was it? You already said you don't want to leave. Therefore, I hope you are able to eek out a happy life and smile through the misery.

Concerning the idea of cuttings from crab apples. You will get an identical plant from a cutting. It's seed where you might get something else. This is, of course, providing you take your cutting from above the graft point if your tree is grafted. Regarding rose cuttings, I have a climbing Buff Beauty grown from a cutting which is fine but if your original bush is grafted on to a vigorous rootstock you may find a cutting on its own roots is weaker growing.