Smoky Mountain Autumn was one I got last spring and hope to see it bloom this year. I think your are right about it not being a great performer. I think I have two scapes and the same spindly two fans that I bought last year. But your picture gives me hope:) Vickie

SHARON;Thank you.I hope your Susan Weber will bloom and be beautiful, too.I think its just so pretty. LINDA: Thank you for the nice comment. BEN: Thank you,, you should add How Beautiful Heaven Must BE.It opens good,and is really pretty. RITA: Thank you.Susan Weber is really a beauty, and they are all New to me.Even if they ARE old ones, They all new to me. NANCY; Thank you.Don't know how Susan Weber could get better, unless she puts out a lot of new fans for me.Shes really a beauty,and I just wouldn't mind at all to have a yard full of her..Gee,I may have to do some of that dabbing too, just to see what kind of a baby I would get with HBHMB.If you have babies from it, wish you would post a couple of them. NGRAHAM: Thanks for the comment. DEBRA: I had not thought really how late Susan Weber was blooming, but, she is blooming mighty late.Guess I need a few m ore LATE bloomers. VAL, Thank you. KAY;Thank you, Thank you all for all the nice comments. Jean

I am glad you got some needed rain, Jason. I especially like Baby blue eyes of your two that "braved the storm". kay

Nice Clements roses hcarnevale! :) Here is a thread you may like hcarnevale....Has Star of the Nile, Louise Clements and other roses... http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2143973/some-of-my-clements-roses