Variegated plants from seed

17 years ago

Which variegated plants come true from seed, and which produce seed that when open pollinated still produce variegated plants?

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hendy
17 years ago
Sorry I have some trouble with this language..
..I think that the variagated plants come true from seed by virus. The virus is the factor to change the color and the plant grow.It's extremely scarce to produce the variagated plant by pollinated..
http://www.em.ca/garden/per_heliopsis_loraine_sunshine.html
Two years ago, my wife collected some seed of a plant..**Heliopsis Loraine Sunshine** and she eliminated all the waste..leaves,petal, etc.. the seeds was clean..
I do the same think with some others seeds(Heliopsis Loraine Sunshine) but I kept all the waste(leaves petal etc) and I wait about a month to dry.. (contamination but virus)
We planted this seeds to different place and (my wife seed's) only few seeds (1 %) grow with panached leaves..
My seeds grow with about 30-40% panached leaves..
All the seeds was collect on the same plant..
Virus was probably the good raison of this variagated plants..
Sometime you see some branch with white leaves.. it's probably insect(prick) with virus.,.
You multiply this branch by cutting,grafting or in vitro...
It' s only a theory..and I have some test to verify..
patrick_nh
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17 years ago
Thank you, it is true that some variegation is caused by disease, and many healthy variegates do not produce true from seed, however, there are at least a few variegated plants which do breed true from seed. I have a few examples, such as Alaska nasturtiums, and I'm wondering if there are others out there about which I'm unaware. I've never heard of a virus being the cause of variegation on Lorraine Sunshine, but I have heard from others who claim that they do produce at least some variegated offspring from seed. I'll have to look into this further. Although I would be surprised to find that it is marketed as a variegated variety that's caused by a virus rather than a mutation, it wouldn't be the first time that this has happened.
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Thank you all, I'm very happy with my "babies"! Trudi, you're so right! I had almost given up on getting a variegated plant from seeds, but with 'Rachel's Rhapsody' they all are! :-) I just hope I can keep them away from the slugs, they seem to love the mild and moist conditions in my benches (well, old windows).
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Hi everyone, A couple of answers for Lisa: The word 'Wishy Wasy' probably wasn't the best description I could have used, but in the plant's early stages the variegation wasn't as clearly defined as it later became as the plant matured, it certainly didn't "stand out" the same as some of my other variegated plants do. As for the Painted Lady parent being correctly named, well after reading the info. in my other post (Confused), who knows? All I can say is the name on the label was Painted Lady. When I compared it with other pictures in books and on the FCBS Photo Index, it was most similar to the pic's by Michael Andreas, but then again all pictures vary a lot so who knows? There are two more experienced growers than I who had it in their collections at that time and they confirmed it was Painted Lady which made me tend to agree the name was correct. Adding to this the possibility of two or more seedlings being almost identical and called the same name, (which was mentioned in my other post [confused]), has now planted a seed of doubt in my mind as to its true identity, so I guess I'll never know for certain, but then again are we ever certain? Sorry I can't be more specific Lisa, but that's as I see it. As I said previously, I planted several batches of seed; and below is a pick of a few variegated seedlings from the second batch. (I think I may have already shown these on a previous post). As I look through the other batches I am still finding the ocasional variegated seedling, so I may get a good one yet. I'll keep you all informed of any developments, plus I'll get some more pic's now the rain has stopped. All the best, Nev.
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It would be interesting to make a list of all the genera that do breed variegation. In gesneriads, the first extensive breeding was with African Violets. When first discovered the variegation was very rare and leaves of variegates were very expensive. But, they found that they breed. Now there are countless variegated AV's In the past few years two variegated clones of streptocarpus were found and crossed. Several people are now busy with these progeny, which are also variegated. Basically the variegation on streps is all the same--a blotchy mix of green, cream and inbetween shades. I don't find them that pretty. I once had a talk with the owner of a large pelargonium nursery who told me he was breeding variegated zonal geraniums. He said he was getting about a quarter of the seedlings to be variegated. But, I don't know if any of his cvs were introduced. That was back in the late 70's.
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Hi Jake, With Rosa Sinesis variegated varieties, eg Rose Flake and Snow Flake as pollen parents with plain foliated hibiscus as pod parents, none of my few seedlings grew variegated. You may find this useful as well, .. when you grow the seed of variegated Leriopes, you end up with all white seedlings that all die. Good luck, Brian Kerr.
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hendy
17 years ago
This variegated variety could be affected by a virus..and probably lot of virus could be effected diffÃ©rents plants..
All of my seed have be traited with composting juice made with variagated leaves.. I have some nut, ginkgo, pyrus, cherry, and different other seeds...I belive than this mutation is caused by virus and all of the seeds(variagated) could be affected be a virus..
The Alaska nasturtiums has a leave like some virose...

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