Yours looks a whole lot better than mine at this point. I ended up moving mine from the front to the back after dismantling part of my front shade garden last year. It is a lot smaller now unfortunately. On an interesting side note...it had heaved a bit and I buried it deeper a few weeks ago. I noticed the most unusual thing, this Thalictrum seems to have very tuber-like roots to it. There were tons of little tubers coming from the plant. I took two of them and am doing a bit of an experiment (dusted with rooting hormone and plopped under my grow light) to see if they root out. Who knows, maybe I will have a little constellation of Evening Stars around here if it works, LOL. ;-) CMK

Guess I haven't checked in enough and almost missed this thread. I apologize for resurrecting it from so far back. Ann, come on to Macon and have a look. Pat and I always have plans to check out surrounding counties but just haven't gotten around to it. I don't remember if Charles had a SDLM planted at his parents' home. Anyone that has a SDLM from Rose Peddler may have the clone from Pat's house. It was there when they moved there, don't recall the date the house was built but I would bet it was a passalong, not a purchased rose. Can't say how it compares to other clones as I have never actually grown her clone in the ground and the one I have is not a strong grower. I believe Pat's original SDLM is no longer. Rose Hill Cemetery does have some surviving old roses. Mrs. BR Cant, several specimens of what is probably Archduke Charles, "Rose Hill Marie" (probably Marie van Houtte), "Rose Hill Big Pink" (maybe Killarney), "Dannenberg Red China" and a couple of once blooming shrubs (somewhat china like), were there last October. One little red china, "Plant Grace" is now gone, but it is growing here and I believe Ashdown still has it. At the last Friends of the Library sale, I purchased several rose and rose related books with notations from the 1970's as to locations of various old roses around Macon. I'll go back through to see if there is any mention of a SDLM. Thanks for digging up these interesting articles. Have run across Robert Nelson's name once before but don't recall where. Lisa

'brother', when "Splendide" is on its game it is a showstopper. Two years in a row it looked like that picture above and then for the last two summers it was not (nearly) as floriferous :(. It is a hardy plant but it seems to need just the right conditions to do extra well. So far with all this rain it seems to be doing really well...I have my fingers crossed). (Just curious where you got your "Splendide" this spring...it isnt the easiest to source).

I finally bought a couple (purple and white) last year, I was so overjoyed I decided to spread the love around and hedge my bets by giving my D-i-L one. She is also mad keen on purple, so I kept the white. Anyhow, I didn't risk planting it at the allotment but stuffed it in my home garden, next to an indigofera. Even this horrible summer, it looked pretty good and bloomed for freaking weeks - not my usual experience of thalictrums tbh - I grow t. flavum for the gorgeous foliage However, Splendide looked ridiculous, growing in a riot of salvias, dahlias and alstroemerias, so I am dithering about moving it (although I am dithering about a whole lot of things, Unlike apparently everyone else on here, I don't really do much moving around of plants. I do a heap of removing (usually by death) and tons of planting but it is all a bit ...random. I am trying to cross over from being a person who likes to grow a lot of different plants on the vaguest whim, to someone who can show a shred of evidence that some actual, planning and (crikey) design is being carried out. Quite often, someone will mention a plant and I think, Oh yeah, I used to have that...however, I have not the foggiest idea what happened to it...so many plants just.fade.away. So I am always extra nervous about plants which have required special effort (or £££). I may have to offload my woes at great (tedious length) so I apologise in advance. I have, so far, avoided making any decisions by endlessly faffing with niminy=piminy, mindless 'jobs' such as poking bits of limnanthes or armeria or into awkward corners or pulling tiny weeds, inch by inch, nose to the soil, avoiding the bigger picture. I am going to have to get forks and spades out soon. D-i-L loved her thalictrum and it also looked a lot more comfortable than mine did.