Care for small P. contorta 'Chief Joseph'
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Anyone have Pinus contorta var. latifolia 'Chief Joseph' seedling
Comments (26)Thanks midwestdave. I see zero burn on shedding needles here. If Iseli was aware of the compatibility of understock to scion it could be possible they'd be writing a different article-description. DavidV - the same does hold true when it is grafted to anything "other" than Pinus contorta. Bob's emphasized it clearly. The reason he uses seedlings of CJ of course is because of the closest prodigy of seedling and scion, but also because, he has stock plants coning freely. He figured out something of rare proportions whether thru luck/skill - it doesn't matter. It's a wonderful discovery, he's made. Of course mugo - or var. pumilla (used a lot for grafting dwarf/mini conifers in Europe) - or anything of dwarf understock-growth should not be used for long-term compatibility because the scion will soon outgrow the slower understock - creating an imcompatible union that will "snap off", failing later....Speed of the understock needs to be compatible to that of the scion for you others out there that may not know this or understand how to select seedling-understock choices when grafting. var. latifolia should be used for hardiness purposes -(Pinus contorta var. latifolia)..... I'll assume. One more tip - never graft Abies concolor to Abies fraseri. You'll be looking at 100% dead plants in about 10 years. Glad I could be of help. Dax...See MorePinus contorta 'Chief Joseph'
Comments (16)Holly, the vast majority of conifers and plants I buy as 1/2 gallon pots. I have bought some 5-10 gallon plants or larger but generally I'm with you - my budget stretches further if I start with smaller plants. You'll probably have the best success with 2-4 year old plants in 1-gallon pots. Not too young that they are super delicate, and not so old that they are pot-bound and will take a while to establish. Coenosium Gardens stock size varies a bit by cultivar and rarity. The most coveted stock is usually quickly sold, meaning newer stock is generally 2-3 years old tops. As long as you plant them right, you should have a 90%+ success rate with 1-gallon sized plants. Over my three years of conifer gardening, I'd estimate I've lost about 2% of my cultivars a year, so maybe 1 in 50 plants. A rate I am more then happy with. -Will...See MorePinus contorta var. latifolia Chief Joseph
Comments (53)Hi Edwin. Yes I think I will do that ,but in any case,when I see one of your plants or others and I write here on the forum that I'd like to have one,you can take that as an order and put a label "sold" on it .So far I count six ! In fact,the only time when I get a chance to see a decent conifer display is at the Paris plant show,twice a year .There are the Laurains sisters, Ward Alpines (who carry a fair selection of conifers from Lime Cross Nursery in Britain, and also Vallonchene. I have also obtained some fine plants from Clement in Belgium by mail. Talking of wich (and in order not to deviate too far from the original post) I was wondering what the understock was on Clement's 'Chief Joseph'. What a shame to see a fair sized plant like that go down the drain! T....See MorePinus contorta var. latifolia 'Chief Joseph'
Comments (6)In the real conifer world everything is surviving naturally because nature placed it there. These issues of why it failed never come to mind. They come and go naturally. Gardening with conifers represents a real challenge. Why, because a big percentage of conifers you are growing are trying to survive away from their homeland where nature intended for them to survive. Most of us grow them on the edge where acclimation is questionable. If you want to do this expect failures. I have had my share. Certain cultivars require modest attention to insure their survivability. Others a more intense regimen of care is required. In spite of all our efforts we still loose them. The chemistry is just not right. A lot of variables come into play for a conifers survivability in a garden setting. Micro climate is number one. You have to figure out what yours is and what will successfully grow in that environment. Soil composition is a big player. Have you had yours checked? Planting correctly, watering and after care. All three of these require attention. Have some idea of the health of the conifer you are buying. Pop it out of the pot. Root bound, don't buy it. B&B, broken root ball. Don't buy it. This is a frying pan that just keeps on cooking. Big time if you have become heavily evolved in this venture of collecting. Count you losses only as opportunities for learning and enjoying the hobby more. Dave...See MoreRelated Professionals
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