Al - Thanks for responding! I will try sneaking up on it at night with a flashlight, but I really don't think it is something (a bug?) little enough to live in the soil of the window box - whatever it is has eaten 3 entire new impatiens plants down to the ground in one night in the past - that's a lot for bugs! Also, yesterday I replaced all of the soil. There was nothing visible in it. I have never planted bulbs there before, just plants. Yesterday I planted some daffodil, grape hyacinth, and spanish bluebell bulbs. I am waiting to see what happens. We are having really warm (in the 70s for the past week) weather, so the bulbs may come up this month or next month. This morning one of the hyacinth bulbs was laying on the surface of the soil - seemingly uninjured, so I hope that means it didn't smell delicious, and I replanted it. Jackie

Thanks for the tips. cathyw - it sounds like you are in a similar situation as we are. We are going to encircle the entire property with the 7.5' heavy polypropylene fencing, stapling it to the ground as well. Along the street and in front of our property which is about 200' wide is where they come in the most, we are putting in electric wire fencing. The driveway which is about 10' wide will be between the electric fencing, so we're hoping that they can't walk along looking for an opening because they will get shocked on both sides of the opening. I am going to try the scarecrow water motion sprayers on either side of the opening first. I'm not too worried about the cars getting wet as long as it keeps the elk and deer out. If not, then I guess we'll have to break down and put in a gate. This fencing already has a price tag of $10,000 because along with the fencing, we have CC&R's that say we have to landscape to hide the fencing along the street, so we have to put in attractive landscaping and trees to hide the posts. We also have to extend our irrigation system to water the new plantings!!! So, what's another $3,000 for a gate, right???? mgray2- the cattle grate would be a good idea, however, I'm sure the Homeowners' Association wouldn't approve and the driveway is already in, and from what I've seen, it has to be inlaid level with the driveway. Also, the pricetag on those are over $3,000 so, I'd rather put in an electric gate for that price. Thanks!

They seemed to like the Milorganite in the Daylily discussion. Problem is that after it is wet for a while the odor goes away and it is no longer doing its job. I used to make a soloution for that. Take a hunk of pantyhose about 12" x 12". Put a pile of milorgnite in the middle and tie up the ends making a sack. Tie some string to the sack and run it up theough the hole of a 4" or 6" pot like it was the clapper in a bell. Tie the string to a branch or a fencepost.Put some silicone around the string through the hole to keep the water out. The milorganite in the sack stays dry, and when the wind blows, some milorganite puffs out from under the pot keeping the odor fresh. Works fine.

buttoni - I think your plan of having a cross vine on one side and a Carolina jessamine on the other sounds very pretty, and very attractive to hummingbirds. My crossvine is planted where it is quite dry - it developed quite a large stem on it, and I assumed deep roots because it never blinked except that year that we had 112-113 degree weather every day for a month or so. Then, its blooms turned yellow from the stress! But, it went back to its old self after the weather cooled. I think you'll really like it. I have a Carolina jessamine, too, (even though I also have a bee hive), and its yellow flowers are lovely. Both are evergreen, so they will complement each other even in the winter. Omar - I agree that the passionflower's blooms are mesmerizing. I love them, although I don't have any planted now. I could probably add one to the garage area with my new crossvine. The crossvine has little tendrils that dig into the brick (probably not good for the brick, but it makes it easy for me to have it be self-attaching). How does the passionflower attach to a wall? I think it has tendrils that corkscrew around something else, am I right? So I would probably need to grow the crossvine first, then after it has some height, I could add the passion vine and let it hang onto the crossvine. Is that how you would recommend it?