What's the deal with non-citrus people anyway? ;) ah, the fabled flying dragon... I have seen FD for sale here in N. Cal as just a plant unto itself, though admittedly only at one particular and strange garden center. Big sucker too--like 3 feet in height, multistemmed. I thought about getting one and then rooting cuttings of it...or maybe growing some fruit and collecting seeds so I'd have graftworthy plants when I'm like 100 years old...Have you asked about special ordering one at a nursery? Choice A is probably what a lot of people do. I'm just gonna add to existing trees , and then if I later get my hands onto some real rootstock I will just take a bud and re-graft. This won't help this year, but I've seen some website that sells FD seeds but you need to order like a whole liter or something ridiculous...I really want like, 30! (Maybe someone wants to trade?? )It makes laugh when I hear of people in other states who just find the fruit laying on the ground and use that...how unfair :)...You can use other rootstock as well. I've got sour oranges growing--a few types--and that is supposed to be good rootstock as well. Last point--I can't speak for other growers and I should just ask them, but I know that at least for some of its trees Four Winds Growers does NOT use FD for all of it's "true dwarf" citrus. I have no idea what what it is--some type of orange? it's got an orange look to it, anybody know?--but many of my trees are from them and the suckers are NOT trifoliate-looking. The only tree I have seen producing a trifoliate-type sucker and grown by Four Winds was a Key lime... Moral of the really long-winded story is you can still get a real nice tree on another rootstock. HTH.

what state are you in?

Norm, are these seedlings contorted? (corkscrew or something like that?) the hardy orange, poncirus trifoliata, has one cultivar with dragon in the name which is a contorted tree. Unfortunately that trait is rarely passed on to it's offspring. I would really like to have one of these. (the contorted one that is. I have several of the normal seedlings, thanks to members of the fall swap.

I just checked the seed I planted ages ago, and it appears at least one is sprouting. Planted ten seed, four known to have rotted, so with a little luck, I may get a few to germinate. I have read that they are a slow grower, so I will have lots of time to practice grafting! Lol!.