Sequoiadendron giganteum "Pendulum" from seed???
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Comments (44)Move it now. Temps are cool but not terribly freezing so the ground should be very workable and we're in a dry-stretch, great for working and the rains to come before Spring will help it establish well. Dig a nice sized rootball if you can, the bigger the better. The one suffering some leaf burn I'd recommend leaving it there IF the damage is not severe each year. Eventually the burn will lessen some and the color will be greatest in this situation, especially if you can provide it with quite a bit of water. If the damage is severe, move it to a spot that gets shade from about 3pm on in Summer. A rootball for the trees should be something at least similar to the size of the pot you bought them in, or if you didn't buy them, to roughly the size pot you see similar trees in at a local nursery. A 2'x2' 'circle sounds right here. Goodluck! -Will...See MoreSequoiadendron 'Pendulum' vs. 'Barabits Requiem'
Comments (18)Hello Zsolti, I would be interested in more information on Mr. Barabits cultivars> If you are able to email one without too much difficulty. bobfincham@mashell.com I saw a number of his original plants when Mesterhazy Zsolt and I visited with him a number of years ago. I always felt it was a tragedy that he spent the prime of his life behind the iron curtain and respected what he was able to accomplish when non-food plant production was frowned upon. My 3 'Barabits Requiem' are all over 6 meters tall with species typical trunks. Sapsuckers are constantly after them and although they often kill the 'Pendulum' selection with their holes around its slender trunk, they have little effect on these. Bob...See MoreSequoiadendron giganteum pendula
Comments (23)steg.. I apologize for missing your last question to me.. sorry! I actually can not tell you for sure where it is in that I was searching myself this summer. I was told by Bremecs Greenhouse in Chesterland Ohio that they were planted in a nearby garden. I dont know if it was owned by the clinic or owned by the city of Cleveland in part of the Cities economic revitalization project where they tear down old structures and plant public gardens. I know the nursery manager at Bremecs had told me that they were doing well because they had requests for the Sequoiadendron Pendulum and were going to be getting them in for Spring 2011. I have one on hold to try. My honest opinion is that *most* Sequoiadendron should be hardy along Lake Erie in that the area is fairly urbanized and increasingly Lake Erie does not freeze over which allows for more moderate temps. My own personal experience is that humidity and clay soil are much more problematic than cold to them. I do believe that the CBG and the Holden Arb in Kirtland, Ohio have Sequoiadendron, but I dont think they are "Pendulum" rather they are the species or a blue cultivar. I have seen very large Cryptomeria throught NE Ohio as well as an increasing number of Blue Atlas Cedar and Cupressus arizonica, which are still marginal but seem to do very well in the protection of the city. There are some 30-40ft Cedrus atlantica Glauca, Cedrus deodora Shalimar, and Sequoiadendron Hazel Smith at the Stow Sancturetum in downtown Stow, Ohio (Akron suburb). This year I saw a few, young but very much thriving (must have survived 2008 coldest in 15 years), Cedrus deodora and Cedrus libani at the Israeli Garden in the Cleveland Cultural Gardens at East Blvd. and Martin Luther King Blvd., between E 88th St. and Euclid Ave. There are some larger Cryptomeria and Sciadopitys which is fully hardy at the Secrest Arboretum in Wooster Ohio. They are more known for their collection of Ilex Opaca but also have some nice conifers, though the Secrest was allegedly damaged by a tornado this past fall.. I have not seen it since August of '10, prior to the tornado, when it looked very good. On a side note, I am very impressed to see some fairly good sized Magnolia grandiflora showing up in Ohio, especially after a very bad winter in 2008. There must be 25 planted at the Akron Zoo along with various types of conifers and unusual bamboos....See MoreSequoiadendron giganteum 'Pendulum' Questions
Comments (27)Dirtslinger-Where do you live? I'd be interested to know if it was the winter temps, or the summer humidity or drought that killed it. lp-That's the way it looks as though I am going to go. Everybody's comments have given me the idea that with a little (OK, maybe a lot of) babying it has a very good chance at survival. There were a few things shipped to me very late last fall and we already had snow on the ground so I wintered about 8 trees over in the garage. All but one made it, and I think that may have been my fault anyway. I had stuck them out in front of the garage to get morning sun in march, and we got a cold snap and hard frost, and that one was already pushing new growth. It was also the largest, and maybe it took the brunt of the frost? Just a theory... Nikki-Thanks again for all the great info. I'm going to give them a call today and see what they can tell me. They have been selling the Blue Atlas's in Lima area for several years now. However they are selling them at about 6' but in the "serpentine" form, where they bend them left of center then right of center and back and forth all the way up. I had been debating one for about two years now, but don't really like that look. Not that there is anything wrong with it, I just don't care for it. So I finally ordered a smaller on this spring and got it in the ground. From ppl. I've talked to around here, they've had no problems with them. Thanks again, and keep me posted on the ones in Cleveland if you find them. I would really like to check them out. Dax-Thanks for the enlightening info. If there was any doubt about at least giving it a shot (I think I had my mind set already though) you dispelled it. I like your comparison to the PNW! Therefore, I think I may have come up with an action plan. Get the big one this fall on sale (Hopefully it's still there) as well as order a small one and put it in the nursery, and see it I have better luck with one over the other. I can always find a spot for the smaller one down the road, or give it to someone. Keeping it moist wont be problem. As much as I complain about watering, at times I find it relaxing, hose in one hand, beer in the other at the end of a long day just unwinding. Unfortunately, I don't have low spots in my yard. North West Ohio is pretty darn flat. Supposedly there is only like 10 or 12 ft. of vertical drop from the northern border of Allen Co. (I'm about 5 miles from the line) to Lake Erie. By building up my waterfall/stream in front of the intended spot (about 4' High), will that help protect it from frost? All of the elevation changes have been made by me with the exception of a ditch between the house and barn, but it has standing water in the spring time, so that rules out about 95% of possible trees. You also mention the protecting trees to the south and SW, they are large Oaks, with most of their leaves off in the Winter, will they still provide some protection from the winter sun? If that's the case, (filtered sun) I doubt that it would get much direct sunlight during the winter. Just making a guess, Maybe an hour or two in the Morning once it gets past the house and barn, then it hits the big oaks to the south and south west, and then maybe another hour or so in mid afternoon when it reaches a gap in the oaks, hickory's, and walnuts before hitting the woods to the SW and west. As for the Cryptomeria, I wintered a couple over in my nursery last winter, and have planted several this year. The ones I wintered over survived with no problems, however, my Black Dragon has a little browning on it. It was very large though. Probably 30-36" when I received it in late May or so. I think I may have given him to much water earlier on, I let it dry out for a while, and gave it a nice watering this morning. I agree with you on Darren's watering idea. I think that is absolutely brilliant. It is a trick I def. plan to try out. I'm a little over halfway (North) between Cincinnati and Toledo, but as far as what I have planted so far, with the winter we had last year, I'm amazed that I didn't lose more than I did. I think I only lost three trees last winter/spring. A pine came out beautifully, but gave up in late spring, a red bud I planted last Nov. (came dormant, so I'm not sure if it wasn't stressed/dead/dying to begin with) and a Jap. maple that was stressed last fall budded out and then a hard frost got it this spring. Then the Ash Borer has gotten a beautiful ash that was out by the deck. Prob. 10-15 yrs old. I'm pretty sure they have signed it's death sentence. I've been trying for two years to keep it alive, and the only way for it to look any worse next year would be to die completely. If it doesn't look any better, it's coming down next spring. Thanks again everyone! You've been a huge help! Eliot...See Morehairmetal4ever
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