Those "enterprising individuals" are breaking the law.

And so is anyone who purchases the stuff from those "enterprising individuals."

You realize that Admire Pro contains the EXACT same chemical that you use to kill fleas on one's dog? The chemical itself is not illegal, perhaps the concentration is - I dunno. It's only a matter of time before it's in Home Depot in a watered down state for consumer use.

Do you want to kill them, or not? If you know of a better way, I'd be willing to listen.

It's also the same active ingredient (imidacloprid) that is in most Bayer insecticidal products on the market to the public. Its big advantage is the excellent control of leafminer, psyllid, and other nasty citrus pests. Its big disadvantage is the strong likelihood of the insects' becoming resistant fairly soon, unless it is alternated with some other, equally effective material.

Are you saying that someone has taken this particular product and repackaged it for re-sale on the auction site? If so, then a LOT of people are breaking federal law.

Malcom - I'll attempt to alternate to another chemical next year to try and prevent them becomming immune to Imidacloprid. Admire itself has gone through a few itterations, but don't know the chemical makeup of the previous formulations. It is however brutally effective in its' current state and most importantly does not harm the various predators that are on my citrus trees (spiders, ladybugs, Mantis's) that a spray indescriminately kills.

One point for anyone who wants to use the systemic Imidacloprid - don't use it just before your trees flower - you'll kill the bees, which are already under assult unfortunately. This is on the label, but I thought it important to re-itterate.

I'll have to try that
as an individual with a sprayers license, I should be able to get it
I have used isotox and orthene to prevent on my plants while they are in a non flowering and non fruiting stage, which is rare, and it works well
the problem with using systemics though is that the plant absorbs the poisons into its complete structure, yes even the fruit
and I dont know too many people who want to ingest that
even with the spray ___ days before harvest
I am always skeptical about using systemics on edibles

I'm even MORE skeptical of someone registering on the forums the same day they promote a product.

here is a great place to learn about CLM

Here is a link that might be useful: Citrus Leaf Miner

I also vouch for the effectiveness of Admire Pro. I bought it from a chemical company locally. It was nearly $300 at wholesale price.

That amount will last me for many years. I had almost given up on Citrus in Florida, because the miners made them so ugly. It has made my trees beautiful again. I only use it once a year. It protects against greening, and makes for an overall healthier plant. MSDS are readily available online.

It works against miners because it is well taken up in the leaves, but *not* in flowers or fruit.

The same ingredient is used on nearly all commercially- grown leafy veggies in Florida. If you eat lettuces, or spinach that are grown here, you are eating Imidacloprid.

I have no affiliation with Bayer.

The product works, and for those of us in places where miners turn our trees into distorted eyesores, it is a blessing.

Yes, we eat the fruit. A once-a-year treatment, applied by watering can, to the soil, is preferable to us, compared with multiple spraying of insecticides that we used to do, that did not even work.

Lisa

Oregon - You can be skeptical all you want. Have been lurking for some time, but just decided to post something useful. Normally I am playing catch-up with everyone's knowledge here, thus have little to add to the expertise that already exists here.

If you donÂt want to use Admire - don't use it - let the leaf miners riddle your plants into growth stagnation. It's really your decision, so save your empty attacks. And no, I don't work for Bayer, but I do LOVE their products.

Lisa also mirrors a good point. Admire does not affect the beneficial predators on my plants. Green/yellow spiders, ladybugs, lizards, etc. all have a field day with anything that dares to land on my Citrus. If they miss it and start chowing down on the leaves, well the Admire Pro takes care of that =)

-Zee