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OT: Passiflora seeds

karyn1
16 years ago

This is off topic but does anyone here grow passion vines or want to try growing them? I'm overrun with seeds from a few of my P. amethystina crosses. I don't know what variety might have pollinated them this season so I don't know what they'll look like. I don't want to post this on the seed exchange because I get so many BS responses that never follow through and I'd rather share them with people that I post with anyway. These pics are the plants that the fruit came from. I didn't separate them so the seeds could be from any of these or a mix of all. This isn't a cold hardy variety and will need protection from freezing temps. The pod parent reached blooming size in a short amount of time, one full year from seed to bloom and I'm guessing that these will be fast growers also but that's another unknown. This fruit was not palatable and was stinky when cut open but the flowers had a nice light fragrance.

Karyn



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Comments (42)

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hello Karyn. I almost fell off my chair when I saw your thread and opened the post. I've accumulated eight species, two new seed packs. I saw a picture of an alata x quadrangularis hybrid and fortuitously wound up on summer hill seeds website. Santa has promised that I'll be getting a nine pack of new seeds. Very exciting. I saw the amythestina for the first time and immediately wrote it first on a list of species I really liked. In the passion flower I'm primarily concerned with the flower and not so much the fruit. A scent in some of the passion flowers is a nice surprise but not necessary. I have been planting them outdoors in the ground in spring and digging them up again in fall so their frost hardiness isn't an issue. I reduce mine yearly and severely in the fall and start cuttings from the pruned branches. I've got the two new seed types germinating now and I hope to try to plant the small plants together to see if it's possible to get a collection of different coloured blooms on one green blanket. I'd be very interested in trading seeds with you after Christmas when I can offer you a choice of at least eleven kinds. Also I've been working on getting my pics from a digital camera onto the forums and am hoping to hop this hurdle soon. Cheers. Tyler

  • karyn1
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Tyler,
    Doesn't Summer Hill have the most wonderful seed selection! I buy from her every year and have always had excellent germination results with her seeds. The alata and quadrangularis look so much alike. They both have an exquisite bloom. My alata is in bloom right now but the colors are very muted because it's inside but it's still pretty. Just let me know. You can have some for postage and a trade isn't needed though I'd love to know what you have after the holidays. I don't remember what shipping is for a padded mailer is to Canada.
    Karyn

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  • oxmyx
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks Karen, Since you already generously sent me seeds,anf cuttings, I think I am all set.
    Tyler I am very interested in Passiflora, and live in your zone, in Connecticut. I would love to discuss growing these, and your methods, and mostly if you are willing, I want to get some seeds for postage if this is not a problem. Sorry if I barged in here, Karen has been helpful but lives in zone 7.
    You might have just what I am looking for!

    Cheers, Barry

  • gee8ch
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Karyn: Am having good luck with the Maypops from Jim this time around. Would sure like to try my luck with some more Passies. They are so pretty and think they will do well in my zone. Appreciate your trading seeds for postage. Will E-mail address. Thanks. Gloria

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Karyn - those flowers are so pretty.

    I'm in a Zone 5 though so they wouldn't make it through the winter here.

    But thank you for the pictures - they sure are lovely and a startling blue!

  • karmahappytoes
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    tyler_23, Oh how I wished you were in the states, as we have 6 nice sized cuttings in the kitchen window of P. Lavendar Lady just starting to root!! She is one of our favorites.

  • fool4flowers
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Karyn, you add some seeds to mine if you like. Have never tried growing them from seed and have plenty of fence for them to climb. I can send you some plumie seeds if these pods I got yesterday ripen.

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hello everyone. I was very happy to see all the responses when I checked the forum today. I will be very happy to share what seeds I have in an after-Christmas giveathon. I used to just happen across a passion flower and say "hey, that's pretty! I wanna get it." Now I am actively searching out and acquiring new species and learning more about passiflora varieties. The oldest has been with me for 5 years and a couple of moves. She is the classic pink and white petalled p that you find at the corner stores. During her second year she was grown in the centre of a thirty foot wide,west facing, balcony on the sixth floor and had her vines wired horizontally. It didn't take long before there were five parallel vines growing the length of the balcony with up to 12 blooms at once. She was soil drenched daily and misted liberally. One day a wire came loose before I came home from work and a lady who lived on the third floor met me in the lobby and told me my plant was obscuring her view :). I later went on a two week vacation only to return and find a disgruntled former room-mate had decided to take the potted plant with him and leave me ten plus 15 foot vines attached to nothing. Vowing not to be undone by this treachery, I took a couple of the healthier tips and rooted them. Three years later you'd never guess the near death experience they'd been through.
    Anyway, I sometimes get side-tracked with autobiography. Right now I've got a few of the originals growing, a big caerulaea blue sky, an all red number with white centre, a more muted red with narrower petals, a couple 'new inspirations', a 'Michael', an incarnata, and the seeds germinating are coerulea and the second, well I'm out of those seeds now. I deconstructed a hanging basket into seven potted passifloras this year. They have yellow, somewhat tubular flowers, with hairy, bat-wing shaped leaves. I've yet to figure out just what kind they are.
    As for the Christmas list. I've requested: Passion flower alata, actinia, quadrangularis, edulis, maliformis, flavicarpa, and sweet calabash. There's more but I can't recall off the top of my head. Some of the other interesting vines etc. I've asked for are: Aristolochia, Cork Screw vine, Clianthus, Impatiens(jungle gold), Tacca integrifolia, a couple Heliconias, and even a palm (Ravenala madagascariensis). This year I grew a couple gloriosa rothschildianas in different friends and relatives backyards and only harvested the tubers. There are four bird of paradise seeds that have been in wetted vermiculite for a month now and I can only hope nature is working its magic on these(there are four more bird of paradise seeds unplanted). I harvested oodles of mina lobata(spanish flag) seeds from a friends vine this year and will plant some in spring. A package of mixed pitcher plants remains unopened as I haven't got around to planting them yet. Many friends and family members have offered up use of their fences as growing trellises for the 2008 season, so I intend to use them. If the fences were lined up end to end there would probably be a mile or so. I'd love to just plant vines everywhere but I'll have to get a little creative in a few situations to not mess up the flow of the gardens.
    Obviously rambling again. Karyn, I went on passiflora online and there were four that stood out to me: Amethyst, Sancap, Star of Surbiton, and (gasp) White Wedding.
    Barge away Barry, I don't mind. Grow talk is good, so is seed exchange/giving.
    Karmahappytoes! Thanks for the consideration. I would love to have a lavender lady passion flower to go with my kew red lavender bonsai, but what with distance and international horticultural regulations being as they are I'm happy for the sentiment.
    Technodweeb(that should be my label) let not zone restrictions hinder you. Bring em inside for the winter! As an aside- two friends left their standard pink and white passiflora outside (near the house, in the ground) for the winter. A few days got down around 0 Fahrenheit and the snow piled up about a foot a couple times and come spring these tough gals shrugged off the cold and sent up new shoots! Yeah! Of course some of the lovely ladies are more delicate than others.
    Back to the technodweeb descriptor. I'm at the stage now where I wish to post pics. One problem is that the jpeg files from my camera are way too big to allow me to post them. I was referred to a site called infranview where there is supposedly a solution to file shrinking needs. I wouldn't now as my eyes glazed over instantly upon arrival on the site. If anybody knows a simple way around this problem I would love to hear it.
    This has to end sometime so now it will be.
    Tyler.

  • oxmyx
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    very simple solution to resize photos to your needs. Photobucket does that automatically and so do other online sites. If you wish to do it yourself and have more control there are several easy programs, to the complex such as Adobe Photoshop.
    Tyler give me an e-mail and I will help you with the software if that is the road you take.

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler:

    Yes, Infranview also has an Icon creator however, its much easier if you use a simple item for your purposes.

    IÂm gonna bet you probably have "paint" on your machine. So letÂs go on that assumption.

    So  if you open your picture in Paint  go to file  save as  and pick a different file name to save as. Make sure itÂs a jpg. ThatÂs a decent compression and easiest to deal with for this.

    Pay attention where it's going to save your file so you can find it.

    Now - go to Image  Stretch/Skew  and put in 50% for both horizontal and vertical. This way you will maintain the same aspects for your image. Ok?

    Then go to File  Save  this way, youÂre not over-writing the original and losing the data.

    Now, you should have a reasonably sized image - guessing your images are the sizes of mine - 11 x 15 or so - this should give you an image that isn't oversized for photobucket.

    IÂm assuming you donÂt have Microsoft Photo editor. Same concept. Just making an assumption you have "paint" and thatÂs all.

    Yell if you need more instructions.

  • lovelyiris
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hey Karyn, I'd love to have some of your passiflora seeds if you still have some. I think you know I'll be good for postage too.

    I've grown them before but it's been several years and at my other house. Here in Texas they have a take over the world growth habit. The seeds come up all over the place and you have to be careful where you plant them. There is a biblical tale about them and I never can remember it.Boy does that surprise anyone? I have it around here somewhere. LOL Put up in a safe place no doubt. OH if I could just remember where my safe place was for alot of things I have.

    Let me know if you have extra and how much postage you need.
    Happy Gardening, Marian

  • oxmyx
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Well great suggestion TD however I find Paint a cumbersome and no reliable or even user friendly app. (it is old hat) I would recommend the following *FREE* program that does much much more as a bonus!

    >IrfanView is a very fast, small, compact and innovative FREEWARE (for non-commercial use) graphic viewer for Windows 9x/ME/NT/2000/XP/2003/Vista.

    It is trying to be simple for beginners and powerful for professionals.

    IrfanView is trying to create new and/or interesting features in its own way, unlike some other graphic viewers, whose whole "creativity" is based on feature cloning, stealing of ideas and whole dialogs from ACDSee and/or IrfanView! (for example: XnView has been stealing/cloning features and whole dialogs from IrfanView, for 7+ years).

    IrfanView was the first Windows graphic viewer WORLDWIDE with Multiple (animated) GIF support.

    Link here : http://www.irfanview.com/

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hopelessly lost in the labyrinth. I wish that when I began trying to post pics there would have been a doorway enscribed "Abandon all hope ye who enter here" for that may have prepared me for the frustration I've encountered so far. I downloaded infranview 4.1 and have not had any encouraging progress yet. I have some questions posted on the photobucket forums, so before I completely lose my mind I'm going to make some supper then put my hands in the dirt.
    Cheers,
    Tyler.

  • karyn1
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler I also have some Aristolochia fimbriata seeds that I can send. I grow just about everything you listed except for the haliconias.

    Marian I sent you an email.
    Karyn

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Very good news Karyn. What do I do to get these seeds. I'd love to start them before Christmas if possible. I can always send you back a selection of anything new that I get.
    Tyler.

  • karyn1
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler send me an email with your address. My email address is at the top of my posts.
    Karyn

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oxmyx: I'm familiar with it and use it.

    I was giving him the easiest route to take with what he already had on his machine. It is 3 simple steps to walk him through the start up process.

    And once someone is familiar - they can choose to go on to something from there.

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Technodweeb, I'm close to getting a pic posted. Thanks for the advice.
    Tyler.

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler - are you using Photobucket?

    I found that site very easy to use (for me that means fast!) - doesn't take a long time. LOL. . .

    Yell if you need more help.

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Technodweeb. Here's the deal. I've got pics posted on BonsaiSite.com and Bonsaichat.org forums so far and even added a picture attachment to an e-mail (very exciting)using infranview 4.1. A friendly bonsai enthusiast came to my aid on-line and all but walked me through a whole slew of issues that a newbie confronts. Since infranview seems to work I'm going to familiarize myself with it's ins and outs for a while. I don't particularly like having to focus on computer programming when I could be focussing on horticulture, but it seems a necessary evil. I'm going to try and post some pics here on the Gardenweb forums using the infranview program. So far I haven't been able to attach a pic to a reply so I'll try starting a new thread and see if that's easier. I'll let you know what's happening.
    Tyler.

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler:

    Here are instructions for imbedding clickable thumbnails:

    1. After you log in to your account - you should see a page like this. Go to the red circled tab:

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    2. Then - click on the blue "images from my pc" tab:

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    3. Browse out to the new picture you made with paint:

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    4. Select your new picture that you want to upload and hit "open"



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    5. Hit the Upload Button

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    6. Check the Checkbox next to the image you want to show

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    7. Go to the bottom of the page and click the "generate HTML and IMG Code" button

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    8. Select the code in the top box by just clicking in the box. The code will be automatically copied.

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    9. Come back to the "message" box for the Brug forum and RIGHT click your mouse button and hit paste.

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    10. Hit the Preview button

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    11. You should see the small thumbnail in your preview

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    Hit POST. . .and viola. . you're done.

    I hope that makes sense. I tried to give you step by step.

  • ruth_ann
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I was surfing the internet today and found this site in Holland for the Passiflora lovers to drool over...
    Go Here
    then click 'catalogus' on the left,
    then click 'Passiflora' in the middle.

    Actually, all the plants have many beautiful cultivars. :))

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No dice technodweeb. Followed directions exactly (very helpful thank you). When I preview message there is no thumbnail pic and when it is submitted still no thumbnail.
    What am I doing wrong? Nice pics on site suggested above btw.
    Tyler.

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler:

    You clicked the third box down - wrong box - click in the top box. (or the second box for full size images.)

    You want the code that has the tags <img src> in them.

    That's ok though. Great stab for a first shot! Nicely done!

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I think I see what I did wrong. Did not follow directions exactly. That's the trouble with computers, they do exactly as they are told!
    Tyler.


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  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You're only checking the check box by the image. And then - make sure you're going to the BOTTOM of that image page and hitting the button to generate HTML and IMG tags.

    Then - when the page changes - click in the TOP box - the one that says " HTML clickable thumbnails for Ebay, Livejournal, MySpace" etc.

    Don't use anything on that first page directly under the images. You'll have to modify the code to remove the action calls. (Way too much nerdy stuff to mess with)

    Try again. . . .

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Oh - ha. . ya got it! Sorry. . ignore that post. .

    "Pay no attention to the dweeb who took too long to post!"

    Sorry. .

    Nice job Tyler. . .well done!

  • ruth_ann
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler....
    !
    Where in Canada are you? I am in Burlington On.

  • threas
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Karyn,
    I would love some passiflora seeds. They are gorgeous!
    Theresa

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Ruth ann, I am in Niagara Falls (the nice one, wink). And just
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  • oxmyx
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Horray and Kudos to Technodweeb! What a job!

  • karyn1
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler that's the truth. The American side of the falls is nasty. I love the Niagra on the Lake area, very pretty. There's a number of beautiful neighborhoods in that area. It's just the tacky, touristy stuff at the falls but even that can be fun. My kids love it. lol The casinos are nice though, too bad I don't like to gamble.

    Theresa send me an email with your address. I don't know if I still have it or not.
    Karyn

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi karyn1,
    I wonder just how far the urban planners are going to go towards creating the "Great Wall Of Hotels" around the Falls. It seems the Americans have declared a unilateral moritorium on hotel building around the Falls decades ago. Hopefully that will happen here soon.
    I've sent you a few e-mails so far, regarding seed exchange of your beautiful amethystina passies, but they keep getting blocked. Maybe you have suggestion?
    Tyler.

  • ruth_ann
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Small world Tyler, you are only 45 min down the pike from me.

  • karyn1
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler that's strange. They aren't in my spam folder either. Are you sending them to bhkalen@aol.com ? I haven't been there since the summer before last. Have they built more hotels since then?
    Karyn

  • daisy12
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Karyn1,
    If you have some Passiflora seeds left, I would love to try them. I have 1 plant that I have had for 3 or 4 years and this year I finally got smart and tried some cuttings---duh----I now have a nice start to plant out next spring! :)

  • tyler_23
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Hi Karyn,
    That is the address I've sent them to and I'm going to try again. They have built more hotels since the summer before last but at least they are nice hotels. All the extra rooms near the Falls are destroying dozens of small operators just down the road. You'd think with 8 million tourists a year there would be enough to go around. I've lived here my whole life and still think it's a beautiful place but the growth of the tacky businesses in the tourist area can get tiresome. Off to e-mail.
    Tyler.

  • priscilla2007
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Karyn1,
    If you have some Passiflora seeds left, I would love to try them.
    Will send you an email.

    Thanks
    Priscilla

  • gee8ch
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Dweeb: What a great tutorial. Just what I need for when I have something to take pictures of! lol You are the best. Appreciate your taking the time to do this. Many thanks, Gloria

  • technodweeb
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    No problem Gloria. Glad it will come in handy for others.

  • karyn1
    Original Author
    16 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Tyler I'm not sure if you've tried to email again but I don't see anything. If you still can't get it to go through maybe you can send it to someone else and they can forward it to me. I just don't want to post my address on the open board. Gloria, Annette, Barry and Michael plus many of the other members can send it to me if you are able to email them. At least everything is so clean in Canada, even the tourist area with all the tacky little shops and attractions are free of litter.
    Karyn