I'm closing the offer. I have not responded to anyone yet; I hope to do that tonight.

www.thedailybulletin.com/family/droop.htm 15 foot tall persimmon tree, loaded with fruit. Fruit is dropping off, the size of grapes.

Hi Patty, always a pleasure to hear your input. - thank you! The Gold Nuggets pictured are from Four Winds and so i believe on Cuban Shaddock. The Clementines are on Carrizo. The symptoms of too little water can be similar to too much. Essentially, the roots are not functioning properly. I initially thought my issues were related to too much water and phytophthora, but by pulling the GN and later the Clem, i discovered 1/2 the roots with a bit of moisture and the other half bone dry. [the Clem had an additional issue - neighboring tree root encroachment that was taking up the resources]. One of the GN's and both Clems were in the ground, in fill clay, and on a significant slope - so no drainage issue. Pulling that GN out of the ground and allowing it to enjoy constant moisture, food and water brought it back. Moving one of the Clems to another location with water pH of 7.1 and watching it respond gave me that "aha". A key point here is to try your best to asses your specific situation and feed/water/fix accordingly. And BTW, I would like to add that I still leaf-read, but its only one data point! I have noticed that Citrus leaves show evidence of their environment anywhere from 1-7 days [drought tends show more quickly]. If you adjust for something that you see the leaves showing you, it can set you up for some very wild swings in care.... the leaves might be telling you what happened last week!. - Golf is easier because your shot gives you instant feedback! [comments always welcome - just not about my golf game please] Best of Luck - George [edited to correct rootstock-sorry for any confusion] This post was edited by Becauseican on Thu, Jul 17, 14 at 15:43

Hm, the only thing I can think immediately is either soil or pH. Miracle fruit plants really like soil to be acidic, but they are also really sensitive to fertilizers and all that. Generally the recommended soil is a 50/50 mix of peat and perlite, with up to 20% coffee grounds mixed in for acidity, and a weak azalea fertilizer once its established. My other thought is sunburn. I had a lemon tree nearly die because it got too much light without being hardened off, and it did result in similar burned spots on the leaves. what kind of light does it get? If it's in a window of sun, for example, and you have water (or other, like insecticide) drops on the leaves they can act as a magnifying glass and burn the leaves where the water was sitting.