"But it's through Mary's kind of open, honest blundering that we all learn. She may have been a dumbass in this particular circumstance, but she was an honest dumbass, and there's not much more we can ask of one another." That is true when you look at it from the first post and I was going to let it go with my first post until she came back with an attitude, blaming someone else for her actions and changing her story to a native story to get herself off the hook. That is when her dumbass honesty went right out the door. Then the others pile on. Glad C3D ended it with the truth about euthanasia. I'm with you Z-Chick on the instant brain death method. She really would have faired better if all that 'support' didn't show up to aggrevate the situation. Who am I to judge her - nobody. I've cleanly killed plenty of animals and that IS hypocritical from a death standpoint. I am sorry but I could not let it pass because she was killing a hapless creature and looking for congratulations. She faired FAR BETTER than the frog and we all know she will do the same thing again - she said so directly. She will control her pond against nature. Wait until the first snake shows up, or raccoon, or heron...... If anything - other posters will learn not to be such dumbasses but I don't believe it will stop them from posting to learn. This person was not posting to learn. I am done with it (I hope) unless another dumbass pops up (and then this dumbass will jump right back into the thick of it). Not much more I can say to the original OP however - as I shredded her actions to the maximum already (good, bad or ugly as it may have been). The 'plant boy bring it' was hysterical BTW. Good thing you said that because that post hit about 3 major nerves for me and I did hold back. Anyway - who wants to lay down money that thread is not done:-)

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Like Jeri, Seil, Jaqueline and Rosefolly said, chill y'all. Remember, this is a forum and consists of typing words. Words alone do not convey attitude, or complete thoughts. Communication consists of "word, tone, inflection, body language, etc.". The last of which convey 90% of the "message" is non-verbal!!!! Please do not read the last three, or more into the words written on this forum. Here is a video clip from the TV series "Friends" that illustrates this FACT very well. Most people do not realize that 90 percent of human communication is Non-verbal, tone, body language, expressions, tone etc. Actors, psychologists, politicians and highly trained law enforcement officials understand this very well. Please pause and consider if the typed words, actually convey the real message, or if you are reading things in based on your own reactions to the written words. if this suggestion interests you, watch this video also and learn what you already know unconsciously and understand that in a written communication there are may subconscious visual cues that you interpret face to face, that do not inform you when you read. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBrYea03L8Y Concise, neutral, written communication is a very difficult art to master and in our information age the lack of visual cues is a very serious problem with respect to transmitting a written message and ensuring our audience interprets it as it is meant. This is truth, please don't read attitude into the words written on the forum. Cheers, Rick PS - I teach a course for law enforcement staff called Tactical Communications, this knowledge is helpful and with respect to human communications, this knowledge is critical for true understanding of what a message means when transmitted.